Am I the only one who thinks that Undead Bloodline Sorcerers should have access to the new Necromancy feats in Book of the Dead?


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I'm talking about those feats that Necromancer Wizards, Clerics, and Bones Mystery Oracles can all use without needing archetypes or anything. I think that Undead Bloodline Sorcerers should also be able to pick them up because of lore reasons. It just makes sense to me.


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I agree as well.


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What feats are those, exactly? I didn't see any necromancer specific feats on AoN. The oracle likewise doesn't have bones specific feats.

In fact, of those mentioned, only the cleric appears to have any undead feats, but most are useless without a harming font.

Did you mean to say class features maybe?


Ravingdork wrote:

What feats are those, exactly? I didn't see any necromancer specific feats on AoN. The oracle likewise doesn't have bones specific feats.

In fact, of those mentioned, only the cleric appears to have any undead feats, but most are useless without a harming font.

Did you mean to say class features maybe?

There are a few feats available to certain classes in the Undead Section part of Book of the Dead that I know about because I saw them in a Nonat 1 video. They'll probably be added to Archives of Nethys after Book of the Dead is officially released tomorrow.


I'd certainly allow it, and arguably extend it to Shadow Sorcerers as well.

Ravingdork wrote:

What feats are those, exactly? I didn't see any necromancer specific feats on AoN. The oracle likewise doesn't have bones specific feats.

In fact, of those mentioned, only the cleric appears to have any undead feats, but most are useless without a harming font.

Did you mean to say class features maybe?

The book isn't out yet. AoN never updates before the street date.


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Ah, the ones on page 33?

Sorry, I guess I didn't read the full thread title.

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Consider this clause:

Book of the Dead, pg. 33 wrote:


The following feats are available to some spellcasters who have the ability to create or control undead minions. If you’re a different class but can create or control undead and can cast at least one necromancy spell, the GM might give you access to these feats.

I think it's more than fine to allow them.


I think so too.

Keftiu, why shadow sorcery?


Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

I think so too.

Keftiu, why shadow sorcery?

Negative energy plays very nice with the undead, seeing as it animated them. Zon-Kuthon’s faith has a place in Geb, also.


keftiu wrote:
Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

I think so too.

Keftiu, why shadow sorcery?

Negative energy plays very nice with the undead, seeing as it animated them. Zon-Kuthon’s faith has a place in Geb, also.

Also, shadow plane is packed with undead.


Errenor wrote:
keftiu wrote:
Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

I think so too.

Keftiu, why shadow sorcery?

Negative energy plays very nice with the undead, seeing as it animated them. Zon-Kuthon’s faith has a place in Geb, also.
Also, shadow plane is packed with undead.

Wraiths and, unsurprisingly, shadows, especially.


That makes sense.

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Negative energy and shadow are technically two adjacent but somewhat distinct concepts (shadowcasters aren't exactly necromancers - my bard in our ongoing game certainly isn't).

I do see the shadow (creature type) and wraith argument, though.


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Ventnor wrote:
I'm talking about those feats that Necromancer Wizards, Clerics, and Bones Mystery Oracles can all use without needing archetypes or anything. I think that Undead Bloodline Sorcerers should also be able to pick them up because of lore reasons. It just makes sense to me.
You definitely can on GM approval. On page 34, it says
Quote:

The following feats are available to some spellcasters

who have the ability to create or control undead minions.
If you’re a different class but can create or control undead
and can cast at least one necromancy spell, the GM might
give you access to these feats.

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