My imaginary friend has an imaginary friend


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


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As I read through the ancestor eidolon of the unchained summoner I noticed that chosing the sorc template with the arcane bloodline lets your eidolon have a familiar. For this he can chose the figment archetype and now your eidolon (your imaginary friend) has a figment familiar (its imaginary friend).

Just wanted to share that idea as my first post.

A 1st level familiar isn't too powerfol but at least its hp are based on the eidolons hp, not just level dependant. And as a figment it doesn't really die.


It's a fun idea. Could play a couple of ways. Just an excuse to have extra pets. A way to create a little family. A dark and/or wry take on multiple personalities. Or a hilarious little homage to Jeff D, Peanut, and Little Jeff.


I love this. Thank you.


Get two familiars and you can have Little Peanut too.


The Summoner could VMC Sorcerer with the Arcane Bloodline, too. Load your Eidolon up with Minor/Major/Ultimate Magic Evolutions... it could past for the ghost of a Sorcerer passed. For some reason I really like the idea of both the Summoner and the Eidolon taking Evolved Familiar for their Familiars.

Like a mirror looking in a mirror... a reflection of a reflection of a reflection...


Then you take Leadership, and have a Cohort that is a Sorcerer with the Arcane Bloodline... maybe even have the Cohort VMC Summoner. Lol.

It's not even super powerful, just hilarious...

Summoner VMC Arcane Sorcerer
VMC Arcane Sorcerer Familiar
Eidolon w/ Arcane Sorcerer template
Arcane Sorcerer TEMPLATE Familiar
Arcane Sorcerer VMC Summoner [cohort]
Cohort Arcane Sorcerer Familar
Cohort Ancestor Eidolon
Cohort Eidolon Arcane Sorcerer Familiar

A reflection of a reflection of a reflection...

You could play the Summoner VMC Sorcerer and their Sorcerer VMC Summoner cohort as two equally crazy sides of the same character... never have the two together in the same room at the same time... they BOTH have imaginary friends WITH imaginary friends... both of them have figment Familiars of their own, as well as Ancestor Eidolons with figment Familiars.

It's silly...


Then your cohort could take Leadership, and have THEIR cohort be a Menhir Savant-Planar Extremist ex-Druid/
VMC Summoner... which would get its own Ancestor Eidolon/Arcane Sorcerer figment Familiar, but also a separate Ancestor "Outsider Guardian" and ITS Arcane Sorcerer figment Familiar. Lol.

A reflection of a reflection of a reflection...


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The fun thing I see in all this is if you had your Eidolon's familiar be the Figment archetype, that means only the Eidolon ever sees it. It is LITERALLY a figment of the imagination of the eidolon. So, the main PC would never actually be able to directly interact with the eidolon's familiar. It'd be a lot of "Umm, eidolon, can you tell your imaginary friend not to leave it's dirty socks on MY side of the floor?" "patron eidolon, can you tell your FRIEND there not stink the place up by microwaving fish all the time!" and so on.

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Mark Hoover 330 wrote:
The fun thing I see in all this is if you had your Eidolon's familiar be the Figment archetype, that means only the Eidolon ever sees it. It is LITERALLY a figment of the imagination of the eidolon. So, the main PC would never actually be able to directly interact with the eidolon's familiar. It'd be a lot of "Umm, eidolon, can you tell your imaginary friend not to leave it's dirty socks on MY side of the floor?" "patron eidolon, can you tell your FRIEND there not stink the place up by microwaving fish all the time!" and so on.

Really? I thought figments were visible/able to interact as normal. It only replaces deliver touch spells, speak with animals of its kind, and scry on familiar. so it can still speak and interact with people other than the one who's imagination its a figment of.

Though that raises the question of what would bother the average person more. Something they can't see or talk to moving and interacting with things around them or being able to see/interact with someone elses imaginary friend.

"Dr, my human served me dry food AGAIN."
"Well . . . " therapist flicks desperately through their university notes to try and find the section on treating someone with an imagination so active it grows legs and walks off on its own to call a therapist and complain about being treated badly.

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