What named characters do you want to see more of?


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Exactly what it says on the tin - which of the countless thousands of NPCs from over the years do you want to make another appearance?

Filarina Grantsliem, founder of the Scarlet Rose (an order that helps former Gray Maidens heal and do good) is near the top of the list for me. I love that she's a canonical trans lesbian, and the way it was done really cleverly revised some distasteful older material! The Scarlet Rose is a group I really want to see more of, too - fingers crossed for something in Shadows at Sundown. Her girlfriend could use a more nuanced representation than before, too; her 1e take was pretty awful ableism against folks with DID and PTSD, and she deserves better.

Lady Altouna is the ruler of Hajoth Hakados, a city in Numeria, and is the patron of an underground network dedicated to finding, liberating, and escorting to safety that land's many alien residents... as she's secretly a lashunta herself. I think every bit of that kicks ass, and I'd love a chance to meet her and aid in that awesome work - and her position as a person of power in Numeria ostensibly independent from both the former Technic League and Kevoth-Kul is super interesting.

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Baris Trenchlow, please. MIA since Guide to Korvosa, despite opportunities to appear in Curse of the Crimson Throne. And its Anniversary Edition. And Return of the Runelords. My god, whatever happened to each standing in his place?


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I will never tire of Her Infernal Majestrix, Queen Abrogail II of the Thrice-Damned House of Thrune. She is such a fun villain, it's always interesting to see where her schemes will take her.

Belimarius is also a very interesting charachter. She is a fish out of temporal waters, but unlike Sorshen she wants to bring back the glory days of the Empire. I simply love villains who can suffer a major setback, stare a better way in the face and just say "NO" to redemption. She has the potential of becoming one of the most threatening villains of the Inner sea, and her relationship with Sorshen is something i want to see explored more. They are so different, and yet they can uderstand each other better than anyone alive.


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Ayavah, 1000%.

I plan on increasing her role in the story when I run Return of the Runelords (with things I've been setting up in the earlier APs I'm still in the midst of running). Would love to see the writers' perspective of what she's up to, which was slightly alluded to in one of the chapters of Return. She's long been one of my favorite NPCs in the setting, and it would be just a sensational window into New Thassilon and how worship of the Redeemer Queen is shaping there.

Also love Sabriyya Kalmeralm, and am so, so curious as to how Magnimar is taking to her in her new position.

As a slight aside, it's looking like Sabriyya may end up Lord-Mayor of the city in my campaign, entirely organically; it's a thread that started before it was ever mentioned in print. Just makes me more giddy for a potential official look into that whole situation.

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keftiu wrote:

Exactly what it says on the tin - which of the countless thousands of NPCs from over the years do you want to make another appearance?

Filarina Grantsliem, founder of the Scarlet Rose (an order that helps former Gray Maidens heal and do good) is near the top of the list for me. I love that she's a canonical trans lesbian, and the way it was done really cleverly revised some distasteful older material! The Scarlet Rose is a group I really want to see more of, too - fingers crossed for something in Shadows at Sundown. Her girlfriend could use a more nuanced representation than before, too; her 1e take was pretty awful ableism against folks with DID and PTSD, and she deserves better.

Lady Altouna is the ruler of Hajoth Hakados, a city in Numeria, and is the patron of an underground network dedicated to finding, liberating, and escorting to safety that land's many alien residents... as she's secretly a lashunta herself. I think every bit of that kicks ass, and I'd love a chance to meet her and aid in that awesome work - and her position as a person of power in Numeria ostensibly independent from both the former Technic League and Kevoth-Kul is super interesting.

To manage expectations about Shadows at Sundwon: It's not the place where we are telling the Scarlet Rose story.

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The Gray Maiden elements in the adventure aren't the focus, but they're a significant non-combat and potential ally sideplot, but it's focused more on the history and evolution of them as relates to Korvosa and its recent traumatic past, not the future of other branches of the organization that are focused elsewhere.

Originally, I'd planned for there to be a stronger presence of a few different Gray Maidens in the adventure and that this WOULD tell more of the Scarlet Rose's story, but when I couldn't find a woman to write the adventure in its unfortunately narrow window of time I had to get someone started, I revised the outline to focus more on the vilians of the story and less on the Gray Maidens. It's important to me that a woman gets to tell the story of the Scarlet Rose, even though that means that it's not gonna get told in 2022 after all.

As for the need for nuance, I agree but also note that she needs more room as well. ALL the NPCs could have used more room in that book. I had to fight to get ANY NPC type elements in Adventurer's Guide, which was really meant to be a giant grab-bag of player options with a sprinkling of world lore on it, so there just wasn't any room at all to adequately convey those characters... some of whom are very complicated. Hopefully, now that we're in 2nd edition and we've got larger windows to write about lore that don't have to be rules-first, we'll be able to explore that story more.


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keftiu wrote:

Exactly what it says on the tin - which of the countless thousands of NPCs from over the years do you want to make another appearance?

Filarina Grantsliem, founder of the Scarlet Rose (an order that helps former Gray Maidens heal and do good) is near the top of the list for me. I love that she's a canonical trans lesbian, and the way it was done really cleverly revised some distasteful older material! The Scarlet Rose is a group I really want to see more of, too - fingers crossed for something in Shadows at Sundown. Her girlfriend could use a more nuanced representation than before, too; her 1e take was pretty awful ableism against folks with DID and PTSD, and she deserves better.

To manage expectations about Shadows at Sundwon: It's not the place where we are telling the Scarlet Rose story.

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Really appreciate the reply, the expectations management, and the consideration put forth here - thank you! I agree that I definitely want a woman at the helm for the Grey Maidens, and a trans woman behind Filarina especially - and if someone plural/DID had thoughts on her partner, even better. I'd rather see them done right later than done bad now, y'know?

Hope we can see that Grey Maiden archetype from the playtest someday, though!

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