Non fascist evil empires and such?

[Darth Game Master]

Tender Tendrils wrote:

pretty much every empire (and many regular nations) that have existed since the roman empire have modeled themselves in some way (sometimes structurally, almost always cosmetically) on the roman empire.

"Most empires in southern/eastern/western Europe, Britain, much of north Africa, and parts of western Asia" would be more accurate (though the Sassanid Empire also provides a major influence in the latter case). With the geographical range expanding as the reach and territory of those empires does. That said, I think you make a reasonable point overall.

[Temperans]

Because empires are so hard to run. Especially when groups start to think about separating is that coalitions are the next step up in the evil government archetype. It provides the reach of an empire, while having the proximity of a smaller nation.

But they do keep of the same flaws. Critical failure when members start to leave or get too power hungry.

However, given that Pathfinder has the clone spell... You can effecively have yourself rule as a local leader knowing that your clones would come to a similar result to yourself.

[UnArcaneElection]

Tender Tendrils wrote:

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The reason it all looks fascist to us now is that fascism was heavily inspired by the Roman Empire (the word literally comes from the latin word "Fasces" which describes a badge of office carried by roman lictors), and pretty much every empire (and many regular nations) that have existed since the roman empire have modeled themselves in some way (sometimes structurally, almost always cosmetically) on the roman empire.
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"Inspired by" does not equal "Modeled after", even if that was the goal the founders had in mind. From everything I've read, while the Holy Roman Empire claimed to be the successor of the Roman Empire, to paraphrase Voltaire, it is debatable just how holy it was (the Papal States took the cake there), and it wasn't very Roman, and it wasn't a very cohesive empire.

[Yakman]

UnArcaneElection wrote:

Tender Tendrils wrote:

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The reason it all looks fascist to us now is that fascism was heavily inspired by the Roman Empire (the word literally comes from the latin word "Fasces" which describes a badge of office carried by roman lictors), and pretty much every empire (and many regular nations) that have existed since the roman empire have modeled themselves in some way (sometimes structurally, almost always cosmetically) on the roman empire.
{. . .}

"Inspired by" does not equal "Modeled after", even if that was the goal the founders had in mind. From everything I've read, while the Holy Roman Empire claimed to be the successor of the Roman Empire, to paraphrase Voltaire, it is debatable just how holy it was (the Papal States took the cake there), and it wasn't very Roman, and it wasn't a very cohesive empire.

The Papal States were never paragons of 'holy'...

[Tender Tendrils]

UnArcaneElection wrote:

Tender Tendrils wrote:

{. . .}

The reason it all looks fascist to us now is that fascism was heavily inspired by the Roman Empire (the word literally comes from the latin word "Fasces" which describes a badge of office carried by roman lictors), and pretty much every empire (and many regular nations) that have existed since the roman empire have modeled themselves in some way (sometimes structurally, almost always cosmetically) on the roman empire.
{. . .}

"Inspired by" does not equal "Modeled after", even if that was the goal the founders had in mind. From everything I've read, while the Holy Roman Empire claimed to be the successor of the Roman Empire, to paraphrase Voltaire, it is debatable just how holy it was (the Papal States took the cake there), and it wasn't very Roman, and it wasn't a very cohesive empire.