As a general reminder, things suck, worldwide

[Wei Ji the Learner]

Don't look at it as being 'screwed' if divinity showed up, but blessed with not having to deal with the nearly byzantine rules and regulations that most faiths invariably develop.

I've generally styled myself as 'agnostic eclectic' -- I look for the good in all belief paths, and try to do that, and not do the bad stuff. Lately, though, a certain Duke of Thunder has been trying to dance His drunken way into my life -- not sure how I feel about that yet.

And you would be correct.

Not 'technically' correct, but on the money about empathy, ethics. The danger with 'risk reduction' is that sometimes people will prefer the status quo rather than change things because there's less risk.

[CrimsonKnight]

the status quo can be the greater risk i.e. global warming. near certain environmental catastrophe, famine, etc. and a risk for the end of the human species vs. economic and social change/opportunity.

[Dancing Wind]

CrimsonKnight wrote:

but only for themselves/their group/those who conform, at the expense of everyone else.

Building a healthy community is not a zero-sum game. When you make a place welcoming for people who have previously been unwelcome, it sometimes means that people who were previously comfortable here might feel uncomfortable while they adjust to the new heterogeneity.

But that is not at all the same as asking them to "conform" or nor does it mean that the new, more expansive community comes at their "expense".

edit [Unless, of course, you believe that their previous level of comfort came at the expense of the previously marginalized groups and you don't want that to change]

[Kobold Catgirl]

Zero-sum games are a lot less common than people who are already well-off tend to think.

[CrimsonKnight]

Dancing Wind wrote:

Building a healthy community is not a zero-sum game. When you make a place welcoming for people who have previously been unwelcome, it sometimes means that people who were previously comfortable here might feel uncomfortable while they adjust to the new heterogeneity.

As an excluded other I can't agree more.

Dancing Wind wrote:

But that is not at all the same as asking them to "conform" or nor does it mean that the new, more expansive community comes at their "expense".

what I have seen as an outsider “When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.”

― Franklin Leonard
they should conform to rules protecting marginalized groups.
if they must pay the price of not being able to spout hate-speech or to loose the "freedom" to attack minorities then fine.