roquepo |
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All the Swashbuckler talk made me realize that Incredible Movement and Vivacious Speed are quite different. The first only applies to your land Speed, while the latter applies to all speeds, but only when you have panache (the non panache speed boost calls only for "speed" which is stated to be land speed only). Despite how similar they are in purpose and level scalling, them being this different strikes me as a bit weird.
Most extra movement types sources are based on land speed, so it is not a big difference but, in some cases, like using a battle form spell, this is actually really big.
Do you think this is intentional? Or do you believe that they should be equalized in one way or the other perhaps?
breithauptclan |
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I'm fine with them being different. Especially since they are for different classes and are class features rather than feats.
You move like the wind. You gain a +10-foot status bonus to your Speed whenever you’re not wearing armor. The bonus increases by 5 feet for every 4 levels you have beyond 3rd.
When you've made an impression, you move even faster than normal, darting about the battlefield with incredible speed. Increase the status bonus to your Speeds when you have panache to a +10-foot status bonus; this bonus increases by 5 feet at 7th, 11th, 15th, and 19th levels. When you don't have panache, you still get half this status bonus to your Speed, rounded down to the nearest 5-foot increment.
As you noted already, the Swashbuckler is only as fast as the Monk (all else being equal) when the Swashbuckler has panache. ("every 4 levels you have beyond 3rd" = "7th, 11th, 15th, and 19th levels") So the Swashbuckler is never faster than the Monk. As a tradeoff, the Swashbuckler can use the extra speed for more movement types.
Guntermench |
As you noted already, the Swashbuckler is only as fast as the Monk (all else being equal) when the Swashbuckler has panache. ("every 4 levels you have beyond 3rd" = "7th, 11th, 15th, and 19th levels") So the Swashbuckler is never faster than the Monk. As a tradeoff, the Swashbuckler can use the extra speed for more movement types.
Actually they can get a nice Jerkin of Liberation for a +15-foot item bonus to speed, which will put them at +5 with panache over a Monk with Greater Boots of Bounding.