DungeonmasterCal |
I just watched the first episode of "The Book of Boba Fett". It was fun and I think I'm going to enjoy the series. I still had a question or two, but that was probably done intentionally to make the viewers all wonder about some things.
There is also a 20 minute short about the history of the character and how he was developed for the movies. I really liked that as it gave me some Star Wars nerdness that I hadn't seen before.
JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
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I enjoyed it, but enjoyed the current day part a lot more than the flashback. Escaping the Sarlaac was cool to see, but the Sandpeople part dragged. I'm concerned that the series will be 50% flashback the entire way through, which isn't what I'm really looking to see.
The challenge with flashbacks as part of the storytelling mechanism is that either, they should be short to just build the character a bit, or if longer they should a) tell a complete story in the flashback part of the episode, like Lost, or b) flashback to events which have a direct correlation to the present day part of the episode, like Arrow. BoBF didn't do either of these.
I'd have much preferred 2-3 episodes of him escaping the Sarlaac, joining the Sandpeople, etc. then cut to episodes starting in Jabba's Palace and the current timeline. As it was, it felt like 2 1/2 episodes, neither of which really ended on anything other than a random part of the narrative.
DungeonmasterCal |
Well, I gotta say I really loved today's episode. For so many years we fans have thought very little good of the Tusken people. This morning's episode certainly changed every bit of that for me. Good on ya, Disney (I don't say that lightly. Disney has screwed up a lot of stuff but I think as long as Feloni has a say in the newly expanding Star Wars Universe we'll keep seeing the good stuff is still there to be discovered).
Aberzombie |
Some thoughts on episode two:
Loved seeing more of the Tusken Raiders and their culture. The fight training kind of reminded me of The Last Samurai, but the overall culture reminds me a bit of the Fremen. Seeing them take down the train was cool. I imagine they’ll play a big part in any final battle.
Was that a Wookiee? If so, it was the most psycho Wookiee I’ve ever seen. I’ve heard it’s a character from comics, but I’m not familiar with it.
And I was happy to see more hutts. It was weird seeing an underworld without them involved. Hopefully, they won’t get killed off too quickly.
DungeonmasterCal |
The Wookie is Black Krrsantan. He made his first appearance in a series of comic books from 2015 (I don't read any of the comics or novels but an article today in Forbes Magazine had a write up about him), and according to that lore, has had run ins with Boba Fett before and lost one eye to a fight with Obi-Wan. Some fan theories posit he could be a link between "The Book of Boba Fett" and the Obi-Wan Kenobi series coming out soon. All I know he might as well have had a neon sign flashing "I'm A Bad Ass" over his head in his scenes.
JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
Aberzombie |
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I liked episode 2 a bit better, but still feel the flashbacks don't really connect with the events in the present day very well - would have preferred 2 full episodes of Tusken stuff, followed by a time jump to present day for 4 episodes there.
I think it’s more the flashbacks don’t connect….yet. I have to wonder if they’re setting up for Fett to bring the Tusken in on his side.
JoelF847 RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32, 2011 Top 16 |
JoelF847 wrote:I liked episode 2 a bit better, but still feel the flashbacks don't really connect with the events in the present day very well - would have preferred 2 full episodes of Tusken stuff, followed by a time jump to present day for 4 episodes there.I think it’s more the flashbacks don’t connect….yet. I have to wonder if they’re setting up for Fett to bring the Tusken in on his side.
Sure, I fully expect that. But if there's no in-episode connection, it makes for a poor episodic viewing experience. At least the flashback story in E2 had a beginning, middle and end to it's own min-story, but the present day stuff felt like just half an episode without much conclusion.
In E1, it was the reverse, the present day arc had stuff happen and had its own narrative structure that worked, but the flashback stuff felt like it just stopped in the middle.
DungeonmasterCal |
I'm just putting my faith in Dave Filoni and trusting him and his creative team to put out another great Star Wars product. "The Book of Boba Fett" could still fall completely flat on its face, sure. But the folks who worked on the various series he's helmed seem to have a greater grasp on what makes Star Wars tick than the ones who put together the sequel trilogy.
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Ep 2 was better than the first but the whole bit with the train was damn stupid. First the tuskens noticing the train way off and still standing around to be shot when they could just hide behind a frigging dune. The insane accuracy of the fishfolk was impressive, then on the retaliation the insane accuracy of the Tuskens from the dunes should have rendered the entire operation needless.
The high tech steam engine was fun, though.
DungeonmasterCal |
Ep 2 was better than the first but the whole bit with the train was damn stupid. First the tuskens noticing the train way off and still standing around to be shot when they could just hide behind a frigging dune. The insane accuracy of the fishfolk was impressive, then on the retaliation the insane accuracy of the Tuskens from the dunes should have rendered the entire operation needless.
The high tech steam engine was fun, though.
It did strike me as sort of silly, to be sure. But it was still kinda fun. I like how the spice smugglers were transported into live action from their appearances in "The Clone Wars". It just helps tie various aspects of the SWU together.
Quark Blast |
I'm just putting my faith in Dave Filoni and trusting him and his creative team to put out another great Star Wars product. "The Book of Boba Fett" could still fall completely flat on its face, sure. But the folks who worked on the various series he's helmed seem to have a greater grasp on what makes Star Wars tick than the ones who put together the sequel trilogy.
This^
BTW - This guy seems to live to keep an eye on all things SW. You might check his video selection out.
DungeonmasterCal |
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BTW - This guy seems to live to keep an eye on all things SW. You might check his video selection out.
I'll do so. Thanks!
Aberzombie |
I enjoyed the new episode for a variety of reasons, but some thoughts....
Seriously, though, if we get to see Fett riding into battle on a rancor, that would be cool. Or, even if we just get to see the rancor in battle.
The cyborg gang was...meh. I did kind of like their rides, though.
The fight with Krrsantan, I thought could have been a little more robust. Still, it was cool to see him in action, and I hope we get more of him.
For some reason, I don't think the Twins would give up their claim that easily. Now, however, it looks like the Pikes are going to be the main bad guys.
It was also cool to see another one of those brain-in-a-robot-spider monk again. I can't recall having seen one since Return of the Jedi.
DungeonmasterCal |
I thought the chase with the mayor's assistant and the cyborg kids went on too long. It looked pretty cool, for sure, but they could have shaved about a minute off and use it for something else.
I don't think we've seen the last of Krrsantan. If he's written like most fans have come to regard Wookiees he's not going to just shrug off Fett's letting him go. Chances are if he comes back, he'll be on Fett's side. I do wonder why he doesn't "speak" like how we've come to expect Wookiees to do.
I suspect The Twins aren't going to just fade away, but the Pykes will very likely be the real heavies for the remainder of the season.
Bjørn Røyrvik |
The chase looked a bit slow, but other than that it was a decent episode. Good to see Danny Trejo. The speeders looked like 50s scooters, so I couldn't take the kids seriously. Krrstan was stupid, like any brute in fiction - tossing people around and giving them a chance to recover and do stuff instead of just latching on and killing them quickly.
Quark Blast |
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I thought the chase with the mayor's assistant and the cyborg kids went on too long. It looked pretty cool, for sure, but they could have shaved about a minute off and use it for something else.
It did indeed feel like filler.
I don't think we've seen the last of Krrsantan. If he's written like most fans have come to regard Wookiees he's not going to just shrug off Fett's letting him go. Chances are if he comes back, he'll be on Fett's side. I do wonder why he doesn't "speak" like how we've come to expect Wookiees to do.
There's a lot of acting nuance that is necessarily missing from being trapped in a costume. If they were to rely too much on the same cues I think it would make Wookies seem like Clone Troopers - "Just another one of those mooks".
I suspect The Twins aren't going to just fade away, but the Pykes will very likely be the real heavies for the remainder of the season.
Yes, as long as there's another season. And yes, definitely.
DungeonmasterCal |
Kinda sad that the best episode of the series was about the other guy. I'm giving "Boba Fett" all I can but it's just not keeping me as engaged as "The Mandalorian" did. And according to Temuera Morrison, he's told both Filoni and Favre that he's not really pleased with how they've portrayed his character, saying, among other things, "Boba Fett talks far too much." Let's see if the final two episodes can pull the whole thing together.
Aberzombie |
An enjoyable episode. I loved the location where he found the new covert. It’s always nice seeing new locations.
Are you contemplating what I’m contemplating?
I enjoyed the bits with him having trouble using the Darksaber. That harkens back to Star Wars Rebels. Still, I wonder why he and Bo Katan didn’t fight it out already.
It was wild seeing the flashback to the Great Purge. Sad to think an already devastated planet was then further devastated by the Empire. Damn, they were serious about wiping out the Mandalorians, though.
Lastly, I wonder what he had made for Grogu.
Marc Radle |
And according to Temuera Morrison, he's told both Filoni and Favre that he's not really pleased with how they've portrayed his character, saying, among other things, "Boba Fett talks far too much."
Just curious, do you have a source for that? I’m a bit surprised something like that, if true, would be made public …
DungeonmasterCal |
DungeonmasterCal wrote:Just curious, do you have a source for that? I’m a bit surprised something like that, if true, would be made public …And according to Temuera Morrison, he's told both Filoni and Favre that he's not really pleased with how they've portrayed his character, saying, among other things, "Boba Fett talks far too much."
I think it was screenrant.com, but can't recall exactly. I'll try to find it.
Bjørn Røyrvik |
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I don't really feel the latest episode belonged in this show. Really, they should have saved this episode for The Mandalorian and basically only had the last scene with Fennec in BoBF. It was fine, and the mechanic is always a treat. I do wonder how Din knows where Luke and Grogu are. IIRC he didn't exactly tell anyone where he was going with his super secret Force baby.
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I don't really feel the latest episode belonged in this show. Really, they should have saved this episode for The Mandalorian and basically only had the last scene with Fennec in BoBF. It was fine, and the mechanic is always a treat. I do wonder how Din knows where Luke and Grogu are. IIRC he didn't exactly tell anyone where he was going with his super secret Force baby.
Fob tracker
how does they work?Quark Blast |
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Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:I don't really feel the latest episode belonged in this show. Really, they should have saved this episode for The Mandalorian and basically only had the last scene with Fennec in BoBF. It was fine, and the mechanic is always a treat. I do wonder how Din knows where Luke and Grogu are. IIRC he didn't exactly tell anyone where he was going with his super secret Force baby.Fob tracker
how does they work?
How does any tech in the SW universe work?
Bjørn Røyrvik |
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Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:I don't really feel the latest episode belonged in this show. Really, they should have saved this episode for The Mandalorian and basically only had the last scene with Fennec in BoBF. It was fine, and the mechanic is always a treat. I do wonder how Din knows where Luke and Grogu are. IIRC he didn't exactly tell anyone where he was going with his super secret Force baby.Fob tracker
how does they work?
It's a shame the bounty hunters or the Empire in ESB didn't have them when trying to find the Rebels.
Apart from the magical find your target ability, it's the fact that the tracking fobs don't make sense in canon that really annoys the hell out of me.BigNorseWolf |
How does any tech in the SW universe work?
We have a reasonable idea of how blasters, crossbolters, communicators, and ships work. We have no idea what the limits of the fobs are. Can they track anyone?: Any distamce, any where? Seems to turn bounty hunting into a bounty skeetshoot.
dirtypool |
We do have a rough idea of how they work, they track a users chain code - which as we learned in The Bad Batch is a sort of digital footprint that connects your genetic information and financial records for identity purposes. The Empire used it as a kind of passport.
As for not making sense in canon, how do they not? Mando is set five years after Jedi and 25 years before Force Awakens with a bounty hunters guild that is recognized and supported by the New Republic. There’s no reason to presume that technology cannot advance in a galaxy far, far away to the point where a digital footprint with genetic info becomes trackable via a device.
Also, no reason to assume that a story set in between two saga films won’t ultimately explain why this tech exists now but falls out of use before the Sequel Trilogy.
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ideally tech works so it doesn't wreck the plot. If a fob tracker is just anything you can get for anyone It kind of ruins a lot of the plot for ... well everything, just find the rebel base by fobbing a rebel, find han solo with a fob, Find luke and the jedi temple with a fob, find all the hiding jedi with a fob...
it might be limited to some people with an implanted chip, or it only tracks imperial credit use, or only tracks people who were adults during the empire or... some sort of limit besides and interstellar locate person.
dirtypool |
My main argument was that at this point it hasn’t ruined any plots. We know Mando has one five years after the fall of the Empire, but we also know that Boba Fett didn’t use one 7 years earlier to track Han.
We don’t know whether they’re still in use come the fall of the New Republic or not. We know that it was really easy for Kanja Club to find Han and Chewie, could be a tracker on their ship or a chain code fob.
This is after all Star Wars, the franchise that ultimately gave us a name and a backstory for every character in the cantina - there is no reason to assume they won’t explain what these things are and why they aren’t in use in the Saga films.
Aberzombie |
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I enjoyed the episode, but I wish they’d have left Boba Fett’s show to Boba Fett.
I’m glad Luke got to meet Ashoka, but that’s something I wish they’d shown a lot more of.
Holy crapcakes on fire!!!! Cad F&$@ing Bane!!!
I hope Cob Vanth will live to fight another day.
Still, it seems like things are quickly escalating, with that last scene and all.
Quark Blast |
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I enjoyed the episode, but I wish they’d have left Boba Fett’s show to Boba Fett.
Spoiler:
It was great seeing Luke again, and seeing him train Grogu. I hope that continues, but I doubt it’ll happen. Unfortunately, Disney seems bound to lock the current storyline into the crap future they previously showed.I’m glad Luke got to meet Ashoka, but that’s something I wish they’d shown a lot more of.
Holy crapcakes on fire!!!! Cad F&$@ing Bane!!!
I hope Cob Vanth will live to fight another day.
Still, it seems like things are quickly escalating, with that last scene and all.
As for Cob Vanth's fate - Favreau and Filoni have learned from Lucas not to kill off named characters with speaking parts.
Even their bad episodes are curb-stomping the DCU TV-verse.
DungeonmasterCal |
Aberzombie wrote:I enjoyed the episode, but I wish they’d have left Boba Fett’s show to Boba Fett.
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Still, it seems like things are quickly escalating, with that last scene and all.
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Even their bad episodes are curb-stomping the DCU TV-verse.
Well, I can't really argue with that. I really enjoyed "Arrow" and "Flash" when they first showed up but they went downhill fast (for me, anyway) and the few times I've watched any of the subsequent DCU-TV shows just left me sitting with that doggy head tilt thing.