Will there be 2e conversions for Second Darkness and / or Legacy of Fire?


Pathfinder Second Edition General Discussion


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook Subscriber

Good evening from Pennsylvania!

The subject pretty much says it all, I'm wondering if the last 2 Adventure Paths that were written for D&D v.3.5 rules are going to see a conversion to the 2e Pathfinder rules?

Long before the arrival of 2e (which I enjoy, even if I haven't had an opportunity to run any 2e games, something I'm hoping to change soon) anyway, before PF2e I was on that "bandwagon" of fans hoping for a Second Darkness PF1e hardcover and a Legacy of Fire PF1e hardcover. Now that 2e has been around for a couple years, I find myself wondering if these adventures (which I truly enjoyed reading) and even ran for my players ... I think these deserve to be converted. (Unless I misunderstood something I read about a year ago) Kingmaker is getting a 2e conversion/compilation (and while Kingmaker is a good AP and worthy of conversion) I feel Second Darkness and Legacy of Fire are equally deserving.

I remember from the messageboards of APs past that there were "problems" with Second Darkness (something that I'm sure can be fixed, but the overall story/adventure is pretty solid in my opinion) while Legacy of Fire is just a beautiful Arabian Nights-esqe story and adventure that hit all the marks as a wonderful homage to those types of stories.

I don't know if I'm the first to ask this, or if I'm just the next in a long line of fans that have inquired about it, and I know you folks are VERY busy ... but if there's any hope, any chance of a 2e conversion/hardcover compilation for Second Darkness and/or Legacy of Fire ... you have built-in sales for one of each. ;)

Regards,

Dean Siemsen; aka the Minstrel_Wyrm


I believe they’ve said conversions take about as much effort as new APs, and that they would rather just make new stuff.


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Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

The GMG makes converting named NPCs a snap. And many of the creatures are already in the bestiaries. Only thing to worry about is DCs of skills and knowledge checks.
I'd say just go for it. My group is gearing up to run Second Darkness very soon.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

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keftiu wrote:
I believe they’ve said conversions take about as much effort as new APs, and that they would rather just make new stuff.

We'd rather make new stuff, sure, but conversions do not take nearly as much effort as new Adventure Paths. If it were a race between building a new Adventure Path from scratch and converting one to a compilation, the conversion would finish first easy. Probably in about half the time.

That said, they're not easy, and take a lot of resources. The primary problem with them is the issue is that they're additive—they require the folks who are skilled at Adventure Paths to do extra work, since we can't "pause" the Adventure Path line when we put a conversion on the schedule.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

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While I'm here though, on the topic of Second Darkness and Legacy of Fire... I doubt either of these will ever be officially converted or compiled. They simply aren't that high on the to-do list. A list that's growing faster than we produce conversions/compilations.


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook Subscriber
James Jacobs wrote:

While I'm here though, on the topic of Second Darkness and Legacy of Fire... I doubt either of these will ever be officially converted or compiled. They simply aren't that high on the to-do list. A list that's growing faster than we produce conversions/compilations.

Wow! James thanks for chiming in! (and thanks fellow Paizoians for your thoughts as well).

I figured it wasn't likely but I really, really hoped it might happen. (and I could always take a stab at it myself, sure). :)

Peace!

The_Minstrel_Wyrm


Pathfinder Adventure Path, Rulebook Subscriber
Ched Greyfell wrote:

The GMG makes converting named NPCs a snap. And many of the creatures are already in the bestiaries. Only thing to worry about is DCs of skills and knowledge checks.

I'd say just go for it. My group is gearing up to run Second Darkness very soon.

Hey there Ched ... when you say GMG are you referring to the 2e GMG?

(Might have to pick that up, if that's the case).


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Interestingly, with the release of Pathfinder Infinite, I could see conversions becoming a bit more common (assuming they use a model that requires the original modules). That may be the way to go, though that's a real gamble waiting for it to happen. Maybe commission a talented converter?

Liberty's Edge

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Ruzza wrote:
Interestingly, with the release of Pathfinder Infinite, I could see conversions becoming a bit more common (assuming they use a model that requires the original modules). That may be the way to go, though that's a real gamble waiting for it to happen. Maybe commission a talented converter?

A friend has just released their (very good!) conversion of the Hell's Rebels AP on Infinite, so this sort of thing is possible! If all you wanted was the Second Darkness AP (as-is) ported to PF2, that'd definitely be possible via something like infinite. My understanding of the APs we've had updated into hardcover format is that they also tweaked with what monsters were -present, parts of the story, etc, which does seem like it'd be harder to do via Infinite (though still likely possible if care is taken).


Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

I think whats more likely is to see sequels or spiritual successors. Something that may cover the same themes or take place in a similar region.


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pixierose wrote:
I think whats more likely is to see sequels or spiritual successors. Something that may cover the same themes or take place in a similar region.

A new Golden Road AP is something I'd love to see.

Scarab Sages

Ruzza wrote:
Interestingly, with the release of Pathfinder Infinite, I could see conversions becoming a bit more common (assuming they use a model that requires the original modules). That may be the way to go, though that's a real gamble waiting for it to happen. Maybe commission a talented converter?

There's a discord page for unofficial conversions of 1E adventures to 2E. It's called A Series of Dice-based Events, or something.


As well, a relatively far along (not sure how far) 2e conversion of SD is in that AP's forum.


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NECR0G1ANT wrote:
Ruzza wrote:
Interestingly, with the release of Pathfinder Infinite, I could see conversions becoming a bit more common (assuming they use a model that requires the original modules). That may be the way to go, though that's a real gamble waiting for it to happen. Maybe commission a talented converter?
There's a discord page for unofficial conversions of 1E adventures to 2E. It's called A Series of Dice-based Events, or something.

A Series of Dice-Based Events is one of my earliest projects, and grew a lot over the years :) It's mostly offering support, advice, tools and direction, so it doesn't have any sort of centralised "work managment", but plenty of GMs work together and cooperate to make the conversions the best they can be.

Feel free to come around and have a look :) some work is already done, some is pending, and we have everything one needs to continue it.


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There is a conversion of Second Darkness ongoing right now on the Second Darkness board. I'm currently running it in PF2e (we're one session into book 3) and so far it is working out great.

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