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I am seeing a lot of old names coming up here.


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I realize that we're past the point of show of support and have devolved into debate, but I'd still like to chime in.

Concerns:
I was very concerned when I found out about the management misbehaviors and alleged sexual misconducts (or straight up assault in some cases) goind on over at Paizo.

I love Paizo, I love Pf1 and Pf2, i even love the video games. They've brought me much joy and I generally feel good knowing that when I buy something from them it goes towards helping a company that works for Passion.

Those revelations shook my faith in the organisation. So much so that when the Union was announced I initially, against all hopes (I'm an economist and headhunter, like this was SEVERE wishful thinking), thought this was a voluntary offer by Paizo management to make a show of goodwill on how to solve these issues.

I of course immediately learned that wasn't the case.

I will join my voice to hundreds, if not thousands, of others to ask that Paizo swiftly recognize the Union push. Like others, I am prepared to let my wallet speak on this and stop any ongoing purchases if it isn't.

If we work together, customers and employees, we have the strength of thousands ;)


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Also, please, let's be civil here. There IS a chance that this...may not end the way we want it to. But that in no way absolves us of our responsibility to be courteous to each other.

Liberty's Edge

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Article Shared by the Paizo Union this morning

Wired Article

Sovereign Court Director of Community

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Removed a series of posts that devolved into personal attacks. Please help us keep this space open by expressing your opinions in a constructive, positive way without directing hate or shade at others. Thank you!


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Late to the party, but I nevertheless wanted to voice my support for the UPW all the way from Sweden. I hope this effort will result in a better working environment for all involved, staff, freelancers and managers. You people make great things and I hope you will continue to do so, and in a just and fair manner.


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So I have said that I fully support the Union because the employees are behind it. Happy employees tend to be more engaged and productive. Paizo and their staff would benefit.

The Union however is one step. As I have said they do not have the authority to investigate managers and their misconduct. They could mediate maybe. This would be more when disciplinary actions are involved rather than harassment or abuse. In those cases it more than likely be investigated by management. If staff are not comfortable with that. Then you can reach out to the EEOC. There are big and small cases on their web site.

https://www.eeoc.gov/

So I do support the Union. It is an important step. It is a step though. Other resources may be needed.

I would encourage customers to send email support for the Union to Paizo management.


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I feel like the main issue that the UPW would want to address is less "managerial misconduct" and more specifically-

The part of the world within commuting distance of the Paizo offices is extremely expensive to live in. During the pandemic, most Paizo employees worked from home and still managed to get books finished and out the door. So is there a way we could allow employees to "work from home" most of the time so that they can make their homes somewhere where rent for a single bedroom apartment isn't $1700/month.

Figuring this out doesn't cost Paizo money, but it does need to be the sort of thing where we're not relying on the good graces of management to make it happen. Paizo is far from the only company that's dealing with or going to be dealing with this issue, it's just that the realities of the TTRPG industry (specifically low wages for the skill level of the employees, because lots of people theoretically want these jobs) make it a major issue.


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On the site issue. I did in another post indicate that working from home and thus not needing to live in the area could help with cost of living. They could use Microsoft TEAMs or Zoom. I do think that is something the Union could definitely do. It may save money for Paizo if the could get smaller office since more staff would be working off site.


From what I have heard I have far more of a issue with how the freelancers are dealing with this situation than the paizo staff

Does anyone know enough about why paizo would insist on people working in the office. Especially since they presumably haven’t been for 18 months anyway ? I am very leery of companies not embracing what the last year and a half has forced on many people. But perhaps that is from personal experience

I guess it depends on the role


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Lanathar wrote:
From what I have heard I have far more of a issue with how the freelancers are dealing with this situation than the paizo staff.

What’s your issue with it?

The work stoppage they’ve done is one of the most admirable things I’ve seen in years.


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keftiu wrote:
Lanathar wrote:
From what I have heard I have far more of a issue with how the freelancers are dealing with this situation than the paizo staff.

What’s your issue with it?

The work stoppage they’ve done is one of the most admirable things I’ve seen in years.

Definitely admirable, but it still almost certainly violating their contracts and may leave them open to legal consequences that union law protects the employees from. Which makes it more admirable, from my point of view, but then I'm more chaotic good than lawful. :)


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keftiu wrote:
Lanathar wrote:
From what I have heard I have far more of a issue with how the freelancers are dealing with this situation than the paizo staff.

What’s your issue with it?

The work stoppage they’ve done is one of the most admirable things I’ve seen in years.

Absolutely. Being willing to materially sacrifice for the solidarity of others' good is inspiring.

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Lanathar wrote:

From what I have heard I have far more of a issue with how the freelancers are dealing with this situation than the paizo staff

Does anyone know enough about why paizo would insist on people working in the office. Especially since they presumably haven’t been for 18 months anyway ? I am very leery of companies not embracing what the last year and a half has forced on many people. But perhaps that is from personal experience

I guess it depends on the role

Oddly enough, a friend and I were having this very discussion. His rational for why companies are moving/expressing/wanting employees back in to an office environment is based on the perceived lack of creativity. Production or productivity is not the problem. He mentioned he has seen it in his own team. If you think about it, this totally makes sense.

Situation: you have an idea about X and you are working from home. You have to think who should I ask to gauge to their opinion? How do I "talk" to them? Text? Phone? Online video chat? Some other workplace chat system? You decide on text and send it. Now you wait for their response. And wait. And wait. You move on to another thing. Eventually your coworker gets back to you. And now you can't even remember what you wanted to ask them.

Ye Olde Days this was just a quick walk over to a cube and a short conversation later you returned to work on what your idea was. It is also hard to read a person's reaction over text as well as video chat. EG; look at the forums here.

Just an observation we had; nothing more.

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Anorak wrote:

Article Shared by the Paizo Union this morning

Wired Article

This is a fantastic, must-read article.

Liberty's Edge

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Posting here to express my support for my newest siblings in the labor movement.

I'd also like to address a claim I keep seeing: that Paizo is too small of an employer for a union to make sense. This is, of course, nonsense. My employer has fewer staff than Paizo, yet we've been unionized for most of the last century. We have a strong negotiated agreement, which we defend when necessary, but this makes for a stronger organization. I'm extremely proud that we have a 100% membership rate in our union even though we're in a right to work state.

I'm extremely optimistic about Paizo's future prospects should they voluntarily recognize the union, and very excited to be able to buy union-made products from them.


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Watched the whole BAMF video, extremely enlightening.

Wish all the best to UPW and will support them with merch!


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Ha. We can furiously agree with one another. :p

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