Pantheons and Favored Weapons


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Trying to find some more details on using a pantheon for a character and I got stuck on the favored weapon. Rules say

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"A pantheon is a group of related gods worshipped either individually or together. Most pantheons are associated with a specific ancestry or geopolitical region, but rarely, a pantheon consists of deities with overlapping areas of concern. Followers work to advance the shared interests of their pantheon, directing prayers to whichever god presides over their current activity or circumstance. At the GM’s discretion, champions and clerics can dedicate themselves to a pantheon. In such cases, the characters still worship a specific patron deity among those in the pantheon, but also follow the edicts and anathema of the pantheon as a whole. A character who worships a pantheon this way can gain the domains, alternate domains, and spells from the pantheon instead of those from their patron deity. They must uphold the ideals of both their patron deity and the pantheon, though the patron deity’s edicts and anathema take precedence. For example, a worshipper of Iomedae could worship the Godclaw, but they wouldn’t take the tyranny domain, as it would be in conflict with Iomedae’s edicts. In rare cases, a character can worship a pantheon without following a patron deity. Such cases are unique and subject to GM approval."

https://2e.aonprd.com/Rules.aspx?ID=1386

But what about the favored weapon? Can I choose either? Do I have to choose the Pantheon's weapon over the specific deity or vice versa?

Your thoughts?


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I see that on nethys all Pantheons have a specific weapon.


HumbleGamer wrote:
I see that on nethys all Pantheons have a specific weapon.

Yes, as does each deity. Do we get to choose which one we use? The rules above don’t mention the favored weapon (or skills for that matter), only spells, domains, edicts and anathemas (which are required from both the pantheon and specific deity).


I meant to say that given the fact every Pantheon has a specific weapon, I assume you have to stick with it.

Talking about Pantheons, are they meant to work with godless healing?


Well when you choose a pantheon you get to pick between your patron deity and the pantheon for domains, alternate domains, and spells. Basically you're getting more options in exchange for doubling the amount of edicts and anathema you have to juggle. I'd guess that favored weapon works the same way with you choosing between your patron or the pantheon as a whole.

And like always you can only have one favored weapon.


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Sagiam wrote:

Well when you choose a pantheon you get to pick between your patron deity and the pantheon for domains, alternate domains, and spells. Basically you're getting more options in exchange for doubling the amount of edicts and anathema you have to juggle. I'd guess that favored weapon works the same way with you choosing between your patron or the pantheon as a whole.

And like always you can only have one favored weapon.

Was my impression, but then paizo has to go and include some parts in the description and exclude others. Was it purposeful, or just incomplete? I suspect we won’t get a solid answer, but I had to try.

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HumbleGamer wrote:
Talking about Pantheons, are they meant to work with godless healing?

No. You can't follow any Deity if you want to take that. The Laws of Mortality are a philosophy that you can follow in place of a deity, Pantheons are still Deities.


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Cordell Kintner wrote:
HumbleGamer wrote:
Talking about Pantheons, are they meant to work with godless healing?
No. You can't follow any Deity if you want to take that.

Regardless it works or not, Godless healing is not laws of mortality.

Not having a patron deity is one thing.

Following the laws of mortality is a different thing.

Horizon Hunters

I was thinking of Mortal Healing, which is the direct upgrade to Godless Healing.

For Godless Healing, you just have to not have a Deity. Pantheons count as Deities for all purposes. Philosiphies do not count as Deities, i.e. they do not grant Divine Spellcasting.

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Sagian wrote:
Was my impression, but then paizo has to go and include some parts in the description and exclude others. Was it purposeful, or just incomplete? I suspect we won’t get a solid answer, but I had to try.

Incomplete. All the rules elements for the pantheon (including favored weapon) replace those for a specific patron god.

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