When a creature is forced to deal damage to itself through something like Confusion or Terrible Remorse, does its DR still apply if its weapon or natural attacks don't specifically overcome that DR? Our guess is that the DR would still apply, but can't find anything official.
It depends on the text of the effect that causes you to self-damage.
Confusion, as an example, says:
Quote: Deal 1d8 points of damage + Str modifier to self with item in hand It requires to be adapted for non-humanoid physiologies that don't have hands, but you clearly use some kind of armed/unarmed attack to self-damage, so DR applies.
If a different effect says something like:
Quote: Deal yourself 1d8 points of damage without any description of how you do it, DR doesn't apply. This damage can be anything. You shallowing your tongue and self suffocate, mental damage, or even soul damage, so Dr doesn't apply.
What kind of DR matters as well.
Some forms of DR allows them to bypass similar DR. Specifically, if they have DR/Magic their natural attacks count as magic for overcoming DR(but not for striking incorporeal, etc). Same thing with DR/Epic. Aligned-subtyped creatures (they have the good, evil, chaos, or law creature subtype) overcome DR/alignment as if their natural attacks have that same type(s). Aligned-subtypes don't need to actually have the DR to bypass it.
Notably, DR/weapon types (bludgeoning, piercing, slashing, and -) don't overcome themselves, nor does DR/material (cold iron, silver, adamantine, etc).
Firebug wrote: Specifically, if they have DR/Magic their natural attacks count as magic for overcoming DR(but not for striking incorporeal, etc) Tangental to original Q, but is this accurate? Per FAQ, attacks that bypass DR/magic count as magic for harming incorporeal creatures. Don’t have the link handy just have the picture saved on my phone in pathfinder-related… this was answered Oct 31, 2014. Exact wording was “Such attacks should also be able to harm incorporeal creatures as if the attack was magic.”
RAWmonger wrote: Firebug wrote: Specifically, if they have DR/Magic their natural attacks count as magic for overcoming DR(but not for striking incorporeal, etc) Tangental to original Q, but is this accurate? Per FAQ, attacks that bypass DR/magic count as magic for harming incorporeal creatures. Don’t have the link handy just have the picture saved on my phone in pathfinder-related… this was answered Oct 31, 2014. Exact wording was “Such attacks should also be able to harm incorporeal creatures as if the attack was magic.” Maybe?
I was just reading: "Such creatures’ natural weapons (but not their attacks with weapons) are treated as magic weapons for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction." as an exclusive exception.
Let me find that FAQ...Monk Ki Pool(Magic) vs Incorporeal probably? "At 4th level, ki strike allows his unarmed attacks to be treated as magic weapons for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction." Same 'purpose of overcoming damage reduction' so yeah, I think you are correct.
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