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Heyo,

with the Agents of Edgewatch Adventure Path I really got into the lore of Pathfinder. And I really love what they did with the setting books. There are so many beautiful pictures and so much interesting lore. The only part that saddens me is that it is really hard to keep all of it organized.

While there are community wikis they can obviously not use most of the pictures and only publish general information from the books.

Would it not be lovely to have an official Lost Omens wiki that contains all the lore information from the 2e books nicely referenced and with the artwork? Something like this would also elevate Pathfinder from classical book based publishing into modern digital publishing.


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Virenerus wrote:

Heyo,

with the Agents of Edgewatch Adventure Path I really got into the lore of Pathfinder. And I really love what they did with the setting books. There are so many beautiful pictures and so much interesting lore. The only part that saddens me is that it is really hard to keep all of it organized.

While there are community wikis they can obviously not use most of the pictures and only publish general information from the books.

Would it not be lovely to have an official Lost Omens wiki that contains all the lore information from the 2e books nicely referenced and with the artwork? Something like this would also elevate Pathfinder from classical book based publishing into modern digital publishing.

So… the thing about modern digital publishing is that they still need to make money. Having all the lore, and providing all the art… that's basically giving away the setting books for free, and also spending extra to redesign and rewrite it as a wiki. I also don't see people wanting to pay to unlock sections of a wiki. I can't think of any way this could be done without Paizo putting itself out of business in the process.

Sure, it'd be nice, but in the same way that it'd be nice for Paizo and Wizards of the Coast to team up to produce a free RPG.


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I'd say the current wiki gets plenty close to that to be extremely interesting and useful. Hard to ask for more without getting into the issues QuidEst mentioned.


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You think people would not pay to unlock section of the wiki the same way they are paying to unlock sections of the lore in book form right now? Mhh, maybe...

D&D Beyond is doing it like this, although they also have the rules and character creator at the same time.

I would have seen this as a supplementary form to buying the PDF. When you buy the digital or physical copy from Paizo directly you also gain access to that section of the wiki.


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Paizo handed off the role of maintaining a wiki for the rules to AoN because Paizo didn't have the staff time to keep their own reference wiki maintained and kept falling behind on updating it (often months behind).

It is extremely unlikely that Paizo will take on the task of maintaining a wiki again, or an app like d&d beyond. They don't have the resources to do either.

Wizards can do something like d&d beyond because they are a massive company with more resources than Paizo.

Also, I don't think many people would use a lore wiki where they have to pay to unlock sections. D&D beyond gets away with it because people are willing to pay to unlock character options and rules elements, and because those unlocks apply to the character sheets that are integrated into the app.

Lore they can just google or borrow the GMs books without losing any utility or convenience.


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I don’t think I can name a single franchise with an “official” wiki.

EDIT: Also, if it has all the lore and all the art… why buy the books at that point?


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Virenerus wrote:

You think people would not pay to unlock section of the wiki the same way they are paying to unlock sections of the lore in book form right now? Mhh, maybe...

D&D Beyond is doing it like this, although they also have the rules and character creator at the same time.

I would have seen this as a supplementary form to buying the PDF. When you buy the digital or physical copy from Paizo directly you also gain access to that section of the wiki.

- Forms have values associated with them. People are used to things in wiki form being free. If I'm paying for the setting lore and art, I expect to be getting a book of the stuff, not some wiki entries.

- D&D is big. Getting-a-movie big. They can afford to make some pretty significant investments, and can afford a slower release schedule- probably in part to support all the D&D Beyond integration.

- If this is a "free" bonus for buying the content, how much more are you willing to pay for the books to support all the work to make this super-wiki? They'd also need to cover the cost of porting existing stuff over.

- Paizo genuinely can't have this kind of incentive for buying from them directly. It really screws over the physical stores selling their content, and that's not something Paizo wants to do. Having a presence at friendly local gaming stores is really important for keeping Pathfinder around long-term.

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