sweeping strike multiclass


Rules Questions


if someone multiclasses would they still gain great cleave at 6 as it is all part of the same ability and it doesn't specify vigilante 6?

Sweeping Strike (Ex) (Antihero's Handbook pg. 16): The vigilante gains Cleave as a bonus feat. At 6th level, he gains Great Cleave as a bonus feat. He does not need to meet the prerequisites for these feats. At 12th level, while using Great Cleave, he no longer has to hit a target in order to make an additional attack against a foe that is adjacent to that target. Only an avenger vigilante can select this talent.


Whenever a class feature says "level", it means "class level". Only when it says "character level" or specifically talks about stacking levels are levels from multiple classes counted together.


can u link me to that? normally class abilities will say if they scale with class levels, if not its character level as far as i know. example

Lay On Hands (Su): Beginning at 2nd level, a paladin can heal wounds (her own or those of others) by touch. Each day she can use this ability a number of times equal to 1/2 her paladin level plus her Charisma modifier. With one use of this ability, a paladin can heal 1d6 hit points of damage for every two paladin levels she possesses. Using this ability is a standard action, unless the paladin targets herself, in which case it is a swift action. Despite the name of this ability, a paladin only needs one free hand to use this ability.

Liberty's Edge

CRB p. 30 wrote:

Note that there are a number of effects and prerequisites that rely on a character’s level or Hit Dice. Such effects are always based on the total number of levels or Hit Dice a character possesses, not just those from one class.

The exception to this is class abilities, most of which are based on the total number of class levels that a character possesses of that particular class.


vhok wrote:
can u link me to that? normally class abilities will say if they scale with class levels, if not its character level as far as i know. example
    You have to patch it together a bit.
    The term "level" is described in the "common terms" section thus: "There are three types of levels. Class level is the number of levels of a specific class possessed by a character. Character level is the sum of all of the levels possessed by a character in all of his classes. In addition, spells have a level associated with them numbered from 0 to 9." CRB pg. 12 So the word "level" can't be a stand-alone term, it must always mean "class level", "character level", or "spell level" (or subsections like "effective Druid level" or "caster level").
    The respective ruletext in the classes section (what Diego Rossi quoted) shows that "class level" is the norm for the word "level" in the text of a class feature, and that stuff based on character is unusual. As the class feature in question doesn't highlight it as diverging from the norm, it must mean "class level".


yep i got it now, thanks guys

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