Gauntlight Keep - vertical map slice


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Hi! I posted this on reddit a few days ago, but forgot to make sure I posted it here as well for GM reference!

Levels 1-10, with a vertical slice North-South through the centre of the Gauntlight.

I did this by flipping the maps 90 degrees, and drawing "up" based on the heights I can see mentioned in the books. I've taken a few liberties to make things line up where I wasn't quite sure, but I think it's a reasonably accurate representation.


That is so cool!
Nice work. :)


Looking forward to sharing this at the end of the campaign with my players!

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Nice! Makes me wish there'd been room for the version of this map that I created when building the 10 levels, but alas, there wasn't.

One thing to keep in mind is that level 1 is on a hill, and level 2 is closer to "ground level," though. Remember that the water surface level of the swamp is a few feet below the level of most of the floor on level 2, after all. (That bit got a bit muddled in the published maps, since the presence of steep slopes on the hills surrounding the uppermost level didn't translate well on the top-down view.)


James Jacobs wrote:

Nice! Makes me wish there'd been room for the version of this map that I created when building the 10 levels, but alas, there wasn't.

One thing to keep in mind is that level 1 is on a hill, and level 2 is closer to "ground level," though. Remember that the water surface level of the swamp is a few feet below the level of most of the floor on level 2, after all. (That bit got a bit muddled in the published maps, since the presence of steep slopes on the hills surrounding the uppermost level didn't translate well on the top-down view.)

I don't suppose you'd ever share that version somewhere? Now that the product is published, etc.

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vagrant-poet wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:

Nice! Makes me wish there'd been room for the version of this map that I created when building the 10 levels, but alas, there wasn't.

One thing to keep in mind is that level 1 is on a hill, and level 2 is closer to "ground level," though. Remember that the water surface level of the swamp is a few feet below the level of most of the floor on level 2, after all. (That bit got a bit muddled in the published maps, since the presence of steep slopes on the hills surrounding the uppermost level didn't translate well on the top-down view.)

I don't suppose you'd ever share that version somewhere? Now that the product is published, etc.

It's nowhere near as pretty as the original post, being just a sketch in pencil I made as an outline of what theme each dungeon level would have. I knew VERY early in the process that there wouldn't be room to publish the side view, so I never finished it up. Also, Paizo.com doesn't have a way for me to host images, and I prefer to keep a strong division between my Paizo presence online and my personal presence... so, you'll have to make do with the really quite nicely done one that the original poster did up top!

(In fact, I kind of almost didn't post to this thread at all, since I had a feeling that I'd just end up disappointing folks by not sharing my original sketch... but since the complaint/confusion about the first and second level's relationship to the surrounding swamp kinda flared up in another Abomination Vaults thread, I figured I'd point that out here anyway to avoid folks from starting that all over.)


James Jacobs wrote:
vagrant-poet wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:

Nice! Makes me wish there'd been room for the version of this map that I created when building the 10 levels, but alas, there wasn't.

One thing to keep in mind is that level 1 is on a hill, and level 2 is closer to "ground level," though. Remember that the water surface level of the swamp is a few feet below the level of most of the floor on level 2, after all. (That bit got a bit muddled in the published maps, since the presence of steep slopes on the hills surrounding the uppermost level didn't translate well on the top-down view.)

I don't suppose you'd ever share that version somewhere? Now that the product is published, etc.

It's nowhere near as pretty as the original post, being just a sketch in pencil I made as an outline of what theme each dungeon level would have. I knew VERY early in the process that there wouldn't be room to publish the side view, so I never finished it up. Also, Paizo.com doesn't have a way for me to host images, and I prefer to keep a strong division between my Paizo presence online and my personal presence... so, you'll have to make do with the really quite nicely done one that the original poster did up top!

(In fact, I kind of almost didn't post to this thread at all, since I had a feeling that I'd just end up disappointing folks by not sharing my original sketch... but since the complaint/confusion about the first and second level's relationship to the surrounding swamp kinda flared up in another Abomination Vaults thread, I figured I'd point that out here anyway to avoid folks from starting that all over.)

Totally fair, you've made your preference for keeping Paizo and personal separate, and I respect that.

Narchy did a great job! I've just always loved little sketch maps. I find them fascinating.


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James Jacobs wrote:

Nice! Makes me wish there'd been room for the version of this map that I created when building the 10 levels, but alas, there wasn't.

One thing to keep in mind is that level 1 is on a hill, and level 2 is closer to "ground level," though. Remember that the water surface level of the swamp is a few feet below the level of most of the floor on level 2, after all. (That bit got a bit muddled in the published maps, since the presence of steep slopes on the hills surrounding the uppermost level didn't translate well on the top-down view.)

Thanks James! A few people have pointed that out to me. I knew it was raised above the water line, but I didn't know that level 2 was also so far above the water line.

It makes sense now thinking about the cave entrance under the boathouse.

I'll get the builders in to make some modifications!


narchy wrote:

Hi! I posted this on reddit a few days ago, but forgot to make sure I posted it here as well for GM reference!

Levels 1-10, with a vertical slice North-South through the centre of the Gauntlight.

I did this by flipping the maps 90 degrees, and drawing "up" based on the heights I can see mentioned in the books. I've taken a few liberties to make things line up where I wasn't quite sure, but I think it's a reasonably accurate representation.

Just a quick shout-out and thank you for this very cool looking map! I included a version of this map

Spoiler:
as part of the papers/scrolls found in C35.

My players where shocked and amazed by the vast scale of Gauntlight. Also they're very scared of what's below now. So thanks :)


Good to have a big side-view for that Gauntlight Keep stuff out there for Abomination Vaults for PF1e, narchy. ;)


vagrant-poet wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:

Nice! Makes me wish there'd been room for the version of this map that I created when building the 10 levels, but alas, there wasn't.

One thing to keep in mind is that level 1 is on a hill, and level 2 is closer to "ground level," though. Remember that the water surface level of the swamp is a few feet below the level of most of the floor on level 2, after all. (That bit got a bit muddled in the published maps, since the presence of steep slopes on the hills surrounding the uppermost level didn't translate well on the top-down view.)

I don't suppose you'd ever share that version somewhere? Now that the product is published, etc.

I can't parse this, because there's a boat and a dock in the level 1 map that connects to the boathouse. So if the water level is that low, the dock must be like, 15 feet above the water and the boat is floating? Is my brain just not working here?


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Monkey Bars wrote:
vagrant-poet wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:

Nice! Makes me wish there'd been room for the version of this map that I created when building the 10 levels, but alas, there wasn't.

One thing to keep in mind is that level 1 is on a hill, and level 2 is closer to "ground level," though. Remember that the water surface level of the swamp is a few feet below the level of most of the floor on level 2, after all. (That bit got a bit muddled in the published maps, since the presence of steep slopes on the hills surrounding the uppermost level didn't translate well on the top-down view.)

I don't suppose you'd ever share that version somewhere? Now that the product is published, etc.
I can't parse this, because there's a boat and a dock in the level 1 map that connects to the boathouse. So if the water level is that low, the dock must be like, 15 feet above the water and the boat is floating? Is my brain just not working here?

I described the dock extending from Gauntlight island as being about 10 feet above the water level with the boat tied off to the pilings and a rope dangling from the upper level of the dock.


Nyarlathotep wrote:
I described the dock extending from Gauntlight island as being about 10 feet above the water level with the boat tied off to the pilings and a rope dangling from the upper level of the dock.

But how did they get the boat up there? I don't imagine high tide goes up 10 feet.


Monkey Bars wrote:
Nyarlathotep wrote:
I described the dock extending from Gauntlight island as being about 10 feet above the water level with the boat tied off to the pilings and a rope dangling from the upper level of the dock.
But how did they get the boat up there? I don't imagine high tide goes up 10 feet.

There's mention of the remains of a pulley system if my memory serves me correct.

Like the lifeboats on the Titanic.


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Very cool view of the complex. Similar to the one in the hardcover edition. I'm guessing that one is based on James' original sketch. Question: where are we standing and which way are we looking at this thing? I concluded that the one in the book, we're viewing from the West, looking East, but I could be wrong.


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Huh. Couldn't edit my previous. The OP mentions "a vertical slice North-South through the center of Gauntlight" so it seems like we're looking either East or West.


Monkey Bars wrote:
vagrant-poet wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:

Nice! Makes me wish there'd been room for the version of this map that I created when building the 10 levels, but alas, there wasn't.

One thing to keep in mind is that level 1 is on a hill, and level 2 is closer to "ground level," though. Remember that the water surface level of the swamp is a few feet below the level of most of the floor on level 2, after all. (That bit got a bit muddled in the published maps, since the presence of steep slopes on the hills surrounding the uppermost level didn't translate well on the top-down view.)

I don't suppose you'd ever share that version somewhere? Now that the product is published, etc.
I can't parse this, because there's a boat and a dock in the level 1 map that connects to the boathouse. So if the water level is that low, the dock must be like, 15 feet above the water and the boat is floating? Is my brain just not working here?

The boat and dock are at water level. The island is a steep hill, so Level 1 is well above water level and Level 2's floor is at water level (inside the hill). So, the tunnel under the docks extends horizontally and not down. The island must have some pretty steep shores... which doesn't translate to a top-down map very well.


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Contour lines. :-)


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Ed Reppert wrote:
Contour lines. :-)

I remember slicing potatoes and tracing around the slices!

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