What Classes Has Jason Bulmahn Designed or Led in Design?


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I just learned that Jason had designed the Factotum from D&D 3.5's Dungeonscape and realized how that was more-or-less an early version of the PF Investigator. I also know he designed the Occultist. Also, with how much more versatile every class seems in PF2 compared to PF1, I get the impression he is a fan of highly versatile classes. Does anyone know other classes he has designed or led the design of? I'm curious if I am just imagining a pattern here or if it's legitimate.


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I don't think there's going to be a neat answer to that, given his senior role on both versions of Pathfinder. He kind of designed everything in Pathfinder,but also so did developers on his team at the time. So I'm not sure it makes sense yo ask if Jason made the Bard or the Monk, etc.

I'm not sure that question accurately interrogates reality in a way that can return a definite answer.

The classes AFTER the CRB had design leads (still not a solo endeavor), CRB may or may not.

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Yeah, I kinda figured most, if not all, of the classes were heavily a team effort. Maybe I'm wondering more of which ones were originally conceived by him, but maybe that's not even how class design goes.

I'm definitely not thinking he had any part in conceiving the CRB classes though.


I am familiar with a tale back when 4e was being announced, when Paizo was primarily a company that sold gaming products and published adventures for 3.5e, he and I think a few others came up with 'Project Mon Mothma' which was to create an updated version of the 3.5e rules (ie Pathfinder) and present it to Paizo's lead, so I speculate at the least he had some ideas for how to update each of the core classes as far back as 1e.


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I remember reading a blog by him, way back when, where he mentioned working on classes coming up in the next big rulebook of the time and that turned out to be Ultimate Combat. So, I think he at least had a hand in the development cycle of the Gunslinger, Ninja, and Samurai for 1st edition, if not being the primary designer of those classes. Though, for some reason Samurai sticks out in my memory as the class I most associate with him from that blog entry.


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Damn, Factotum and Occultist? He's got a good sense of style.

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Ashanderai wrote:
I remember reading a blog by him, way back when, where he mentioned working on classes coming up in the next big rulebook of the time and that turned out to be Ultimate Combat. So, I think he at least had a hand in the development cycle of the Gunslinger, Ninja, and Samurai for 1st edition, if not being the primary designer of those classes. Though, for some reason Samurai sticks out in my memory as the class I most associate with him from that blog entry.

I can't speak to which classes others had the first design pass on, but I can say that I was the first to build the Alchemist and the Gunslinger back in the 1st edition era. (Both of those classes were ideas mostly mooted by me at the onset with specific ideas and the best way for me to convey what they could do was to build the first draft of the classes for the design team as proofs of concept.)

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Damn, Factotum and Occultist? He's got a good sense of style.

Agreed. Factotum was my favorite 3.5 class and I still play one to this day in my on-again-off-again D&D 3.5 game (at 40+ years old I'm the youngest in this group...so we're still playing the last edition they were comfortable with).


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Jason Buhlman wrote:

The Birth of a Roleplaying Game

To tell the truth, this story actually starts in October 2007. With the announcement of 4th Edition, most of my freelance work for Wizards quickly began to dry up. I was not on the list to get an early look at the rules, and there were few remaining 3.5 hardcover books that needed work. With a bunch of idle time on my hands, I was looking for something to keep myself occupied. It occurred to me that there might be a fair number of people who would stick with the 3.5 rules and that maybe I could put together an easy PDF document with some rules revisions, just for fun. My first document had the title "3.75 Rules Set" in the margin.

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