Magus with Variant Multiclassing, could use your input


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Making a new character at level 16 and I'm wondering if this build idea is viable.

Going Magus Bladebound up to level 12 then grabbing 3 levels of Hunter or Sacred Huntsmaster Inquisitor then Magus again. But I want to Variant Multiclass Druid alongside to have a fully leveled animal companion.

I also would like to use a feat to grab Monstrous Mount for a Worg companion and be able to share Teamwork Feats with it, but that's not necessary.

I'm going to be feat starved I think and I'm wondering if overall it'd be worth it or possible.

Shadow Lodge

Instead of VMC, take the Nature Soul + Animal Ally feats? Since Animal Ally stacks with subsequent Hunter levels, you should have a full strength companion at the cost of limited AC choices...


Yeah, that could work, I'm still thinking I'd have to use Boon Companion though to get it at exactly my level. But even then, I'm still ahead in feats vs. VMC route.

Shadow Lodge

Eigengrau wrote:

Yeah, that could work, I'm still thinking I'd have to use Boon Companion though to get it at exactly my level. But even then, I'm still ahead in feats vs. VMC route.

Nope, you should be fine as long as you take 3 levels in an actual pet class after you take these feat and your pet is a legal choice for both your 'pet class' and the 'Animal Ally' feat:
Animal Ally wrote:

Source Faiths and Philosophies pg. 11

Your respect for nature is so great that you can form a deep and lasting friendship with an animal.

Prerequisites: Nature Soul, character level 4th, must not have an animal companion or mount that advances as an animal companion.

Benefit: You gain an animal companion as if you were a druid of your character level –3 from the following list: badger, bird, camel, cat (small), dire rat, dog, horse, pony, snake (viper), or wolf. If you later gain an animal companion through another source (such as the Animal domain, divine bond, hunter’s bond, mount, or nature bond class features), the effective druid level granted by this feat stacks with that granted by other sources.

At 16th level, the feat gives you an effective druid level of 16 (character level) - 3 (feat adjustment) + 3 (Effective Druid level from Hunter/Inquisitor levels) = 16

Dark Archive

HUNTER/SACRED HUNTMASTER isn't eligible for Monstrous mount

divine bond (mount), hunter’s bond (animal companion), or mount class feature

They don't have any of those.

Inquisitor with chivalry inquisiton can get a mount


Name Violation wrote:

HUNTER/SACRED HUNTMASTER isn't eligible for Monstrous mount

divine bond (mount), hunter’s bond (animal companion), or mount class feature

They don't have any of those.

Inquisitor with chivalry inquisiton can get a mount

Thanks, I guess I was looking at the name Hunter's bond and thinking I had that. I'm feat starved anyway so I'll just go with a small cat. Didn't really want it for a mount to begin with just a melee partner


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Taja the Barbarian wrote:
Instead of VMC, take the Nature Soul + Animal Ally feats? Since Animal Ally stacks with subsequent Hunter levels, you should have a full strength companion at the cost of limited AC choices...

that build won’t meet the prereqs for Animal Ally. And the VMC description says that those options are intended to be used instead of traditional multiclassing, not in addition; though I’m not sure what the normal views on that are.


Lelomenia wrote:
Taja the Barbarian wrote:
Instead of VMC, take the Nature Soul + Animal Ally feats? Since Animal Ally stacks with subsequent Hunter levels, you should have a full strength companion at the cost of limited AC choices...
that build won’t meet the prereqs for Animal Ally. And the VMC description says that those options are intended to be used instead of traditional multiclassing, not in addition; though I’m not sure what the normal views on that are.

Yeah I'm not going with VMC anymore. Just the Animal Ally route

Shadow Lodge

Lelomenia wrote:
Taja the Barbarian wrote:
Instead of VMC, take the Nature Soul + Animal Ally feats? Since Animal Ally stacks with subsequent Hunter levels, you should have a full strength companion at the cost of limited AC choices...
that build won’t meet the prereqs for Animal Ally. And the VMC description says that those options are intended to be used instead of traditional multiclassing, not in addition; though I’m not sure what the normal views on that are.

Should work fine as long as you take the feats before you take any levels in a 'pet' class: The feat text even has specific text covering what happens if you subsequently take levels in a 'pet' class, clarifying that you don't actually lose the feat when you no longer meet the pre-reqs.

If you take Nature Soul at 1st or 3rd level, and Animal Ally at 5th, you can start taking your three levels of Hunter or Inquisitor starting as early as level 6 and by level 9 your pet will no longer be lagging behind your own character level (though this doesn't matter much since the character is starting at 16th).

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