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Meet Florence the Scarred, and Snow the Ermine.

Florence is a half-elf Life Shaman. She's got some terrible scars as a drawback. She'll stay in the back and let fly with her longbow from a distance. She's not your party face, but she's good at pretending to have lots of magic by having a high UMD score.


Any race point stuff you want to do?

Silver Crusade

So we have:

Florence the Scarred (Life Shaman: Healer/Full Divine)
Andrezzi Alazzario (Slayer: Front-line Melee)

It looks to me like Andrezzi is going to be our trapfinder (at least, starting at level 2); is that correct?

If grimdog wants to go bard--which should be fine since Andrezzi will have traps covered--then I'm thinking some kind of sorcerer or bloodrager that could be melee support to cheat out Andrezzi's sneak attack bonus. With 25 points for ability scores, that shouldn't be too hard to achieve.

I like the idea of using that additional race point for a group teamwork feat. Any particular ideas on what's best for all of us together?

Some ideas to get us started thinking:
Escape Route: no AoOs when moving through squares adjacent to allies
Lookout: act in surprise round if ally can act
Passing Grace: share "overflow" of healing with allies
Shake It Off: +1 bonus on *all* saves per adjacent ally


NotEspi wrote:
Any race point stuff you want to do?

I took Undead Resistance +2 racial bonus disease and mind-effecting effects.

I'd love to take some teamwork feats. I'd be happy to give up the Undead Resistance for one of the suggested ones.

Shake it off and Passing Grace sound awesome.

Grand Lodge

hey,,,sorry forgot to check the thread last day or so...will work on toon tonight...gonna go with bard...something new for me...havent played a bard since 1st ed D&D...like the 80's...


I suggest you also consider the party composition when discussing these feats. As in, Shake it off is great. If you move in a square formation all the time. Escape route if you are always in a line, etc.

Silver Crusade

Yup, that's why I ignored teamwork feats that focused on melee, or casting, or any particular attack style. These four (and there are certainly other options, too) seem to be broadly beneficial. And while Shake it Off perhaps reaches its max benefit in a tight square, even two people side by side provide a +1 bonus to each other, which is still awesome. Escape route makes all 8 of a PCs threatened squares protected from AoOs, which certainly wouldn't require a line of PCs to take advantage of; the in-combat usefulness could be huge!

Silver Crusade

Also, I'm slowly building my PC. I'm thinking of shooting for the Dragon Disciple prestige class as a Crossblooded Sorcerer with the Draconic and either the Dreamspun or Stormborn bloodlines.

I will likely be human or drow to use the favored class bonus to offset the reduced spells known from being Crossblooded. If drow, I may do Shadow as my 2nd bloodline instead.

Thoughts?


here's grimdog's toon...thoughts on it?

Silver Crusade

Therin Baldaril wrote:
here's grimdog's toon...thoughts on it?

It looks like you took extra channel as a feat; did you mean to take extra performance instead?


yep...i copied over an old topm...missed that


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Personally I think you get more mileage out of lingering performance as opposed to extra performance.


I agree lingering performance gives better bang for the buck over extra performance IMO.

Silver Crusade

Any thoughts on my 2nd sorcerer bloodline?

As I recall, Crypt is a semi-basic dungeon-delve. I don't know the other two at all; are they similar?

- Dreamspun has a slight psychic bent that might be derailed in the face of a lot of undead or constructs (but still has some nice plusses)
- Shadow would be REALLY flavorful if I go with a drow PC
- Shadowborn is going to be a massive boost to (electrical) blasting


I'm gonna level with you. I never played a sorcerer, so I have only a faint idea (at best) regarding the bloodlines. I know shadow evocation and conjuration are very universal assuming you have a high DC, but that's about it. But those are relatively high level spells, however. 4th level spells start at level 8.


duly noted...will change to lingering...see, that's why i asked you guys...

Silver Crusade

Okay, I have three potential builds. They all have a light melee-support focus with the Draconic Bloodline taking advantage of Claws as attacks.

The way the builds vary is in the spellcasting component. Each has a different bloodline; let me know if any of these stand out as something you greatly prefer! I'll finalize the PC this weekend at some point--with or without your thoughts--but would love feedback.

Dreamspun bloodline: (Human) adds some psychic spells, bloodline focus on sleep (and related) and divination

Shadow bloodline: (Drow) lots of debuff potential, bloodline focus on stealth and darkness

Stormborn bloodline: (Human) pure blaster, bloodline focus on direct electricity damage

Silver Crusade

Actually, I just stumbled across another good build; this might actually be my preference!

Sage (wildblooded Arcane) bloodline: (Elf or Android) switches CHA for INT for all class abilities, bloodline focus on "general purpose" magic

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@GM, have you seen this writeup about feat taxes? There's a lot of overlap and common-purpose with your modified feats. It might be worth considering adopting wholesale, as you could just drop a link instead of having to copy-paste a bunch of text. :)


Elephant in the room - Yes, someone linked this to me after I made mine.

If there is anything in it that you would like to include, let me know. It's a fairly long pdf.

Grand Lodge

i was going to suggest that bloodline but thought you wanted to choose between those three...


I'd go with the Sage bloodline. It sounds like a fun build.


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By the way don't you need to go for draconic if you want dragon disc prc?

Cross blooded. Nevermind me. Just morning brainfarts.


Ding ding. Waiting for you guys to finish up so we can start. Let me know.


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@Fellow Players: Are we doing the Race Teamwork feats? Florence is ready except for answering that question.


Here is Golos Unshur, ready to go!

Edit: rather, ready when we figure out the Teamwork feat/Race point question.


Given the lack of engagement on the Teamwork feat question, let's consider that idea dead. I'll probably take an extra feat myself, but I'll look at the Race Point options tonight before deciding.


@GM, can we get a campaign thread up so that we can dot-and-delete now that PCs are made? That gets this on everyone's Campaigns tab, so it's easier to see posts and updates.

Thanks!


Sure I'll make one tomorrow and pm the link to you. Will probably be easier to track posts that way.

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