Quivering palm and weapons?


Rules Questions


The quivering palm CRB says attack and strike. It makes no mention of melee or ranged, or flurry restrictions....

So the question is can a Monk make a quivering palm strike with Monk weapons, or even weapons in general?


MONK wrote:
Quivering Palm (Su): Starting at 15th level, a monk can set up vibrations within the body of another creature that can thereafter be fatal if the monk so desires. He can use this quivering palm attack once per day, and he must announce his intent before making his attack roll. Creatures immune to critical hits cannot be affected. Otherwise, if the monk strikes successfully and the target takes damage from the blow, the quivering palm attack succeeds. Thereafter, the monk can try to slay the victim at any later time, as long as the attempt is made within a number of days equal to his monk level. To make such an attempt, the monk merely wills the target to die (a free action), and unless the target makes a Fortitude saving throw (DC 10 + 1/2 the monk's level + the monk's Wis modifier), it dies. If the saving throw is successful, the target is no longer in danger from that particular quivering palm attack, but it may still be affected by another one at a later time. A monk can have no more than 1 quivering palm in effect at one time. If a monk uses quivering palm while another is still in effect, the previous effect is negated.

For reference.

It doesn't directly say, but it's a Supernatural Ability, so anything that applies to those will apply.

It would not be unreasonable for a GM to say it's an unarmed strike (it does say "strike"), but I don't want to say that's RAW.

Anyone else?

The Exchange

You would need to use a magic weapon with the ki focus or ki intensifying ability.

Ki focus wrote:
This special ability can be placed only on melee weapons. The magic weapon serves as a channel for the wielder’s ki, allowing her to use her special ki attacks through the weapon as if they were unarmed attacks. These attacks include the monk’s ki strike, quivering palm, and the Stunning Fist feat (including any condition that the monk can apply using this feat).

Liberty's Edge

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Diego Rossi wrote:

This forum needs some time to make your post visible. You don't need to post it multiple times, only to wait.

Posting the same thing 3 times doesn't give you more replies, it only disperses them.

It's a bug that happens sometimes when you post. I don't think it's anything the OP did. I've had it happen once or twice (or that one time I replied to a thread just as the OP deleted it so I became the OP of a nameless thread).


Diego Rossi wrote:

This forum needs some time to make your post visible. You don't need to post it multiple times, only to wait.

Posting the same thing 3 times doesn't give you more replies, it only disperses them.

I only posted once.


RAW you're probably right, but RAI absolutely not. Quivering Palm is meant to be a death strike with an unarmed attack. Your GM would be absolutely correct to say no that you cannot use this with a weapon, unless you have the Ki Focus or Ki Intensifying enchants as Belafon stated upthread.

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