Do damage types become traits on the action?


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In the first printing of the CRB we had the following wording:

page 451, CRB first printing wrote:


When an attack deals a type of damage, the attack action gains that trait. For example, the Strikes and attack actions you use wielding a sword when its flaming rune is active gain the fire trait, since the rune gives the weapon the ability to deal fire damage."

This line was removed in the second printing; however its not listed in the FAQ/Errata page.

An instance of where this could matter:
Does a raging Draconic Barbarian's attack (not the rage action itself which does have the appropriate elemental trait) have the elemental trait and thus able to trigger the Conduct Energy free action from Resonant/Conductive weapons?

Horizon Hunters

Yes, this was quietly removed. No, the devs haven't said if it was intentional or not.

For now, RAW is the current printing, meaning that you do not automatically add the trait if you deal damage of that type.

Horizon Hunters

Cordell Kintner wrote:

Yes, this was quietly removed. No, the devs haven't said if it was intentional or not.

For now, RAW is the current printing, meaning that you do not automatically add the trait if you deal damage of that type.

So a red dragon barbarian can do fire damage underwater?

Grand Lodge

Don't expect people to follow RAW when they own the original printing and you (re:Paizo) didn't bother to make mention of the change. I'll bet there are thousands of people who are aware of the 1st printing version, but are completely unaware of the change.


Samir Sardinha wrote:
Cordell Kintner wrote:

Yes, this was quietly removed. No, the devs haven't said if it was intentional or not.

For now, RAW is the current printing, meaning that you do not automatically add the trait if you deal damage of that type.

So a red dragon barbarian can do fire damage underwater?

That might be why they made the change. I remember a few threads a while ago talking about how putting a fire rune on a weapon made that weapon completely unusable underwater by strict RAW.

Doesn't help the barbarian much because the Rage action gains the Fire trait per the description of Draconic Rage.

Guess you could rage and then hop in the water, though being underwater gives you resist 5 fire so you'd be better off using a vanilla rage anyways if you're not over 7.

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