Is there a way for a gnome to get another race's racial feats?


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I am specifically looking at getting a kobold feats. I know humans (and all the halfers) can basically get everything but what about the other races?


As far as I know, Racial and Planar Heritage are the only two methods for doing so, and they are both locked to creatures with the Human subtype. I wasn't able to find anything else either while looking.


Which kobold feats in specific and would you be ok with substitution, because there are plenty of ways to get similar draconic abilities. But if it's something else I'd love to know what build your planning.


Personally, my favorite Kobold racial feats are the Merciless Magic/Merciless Precision feats (even better as an Arcane Trickster with the Kobold Bloodline)... or the Scaled Disciple feat for access to Dragon Disciple as a divine caster.


If your GM allows custom races, you could custom create a race with racial traits like a Gnome/Kobold hybrid, and then in your backstory you could say that your mother and father were Kobold and Gnome (or w/e you want). When I run campaigns, I usually allow custom races up to 15RP and that many points allows for plenty of customization for the player and isn't overpowered.


I've been using a personalize world, that has gnomes and kobolds as mutant hybrids of halflings, for so long I was confused by the question at first.

You could find a devotee of Socothbenoth who would be more than happy to insult the two mutually hateful races and fuse a kobold and gnome together into knobolm or what have you. polymorph doesn't grant type, but Socothbenoth's perverse reshaping could ignore that restriction.

There isn't a legit out of the box way of doing this though.


I specifically wanted the Scaled Disciple feat. My GM hates to haggle about things so he says only paizo and only by the rules. I get it. For the most part there is such an abundance of material players should be happy. I just really wanted a divine dragon disciple gnome.


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The closest you can come by the official rules (and, more importantly, your GM's preferences) would be to play a kobold foundling who was raised by gnomes. Now that I think about it -- I have the beginnings of a backstory for a future PC....


Ryze Kuja wrote:
If your GM allows custom races, you could custom create a race with racial traits like a Gnome/Kobold hybrid, and then in your backstory you could say that your mother and father were Kobold and Gnome (or w/e you want). When I run campaigns, I usually allow custom races up to 15RP and that many points allows for plenty of customization for the player and isn't overpowered.

Well, you see, mommy was lonely Gnome that worshipped Lamashtu. And daddy was an adventurous Kobold who could be persuaded into just about anything with enough ale. There was a wierd night with a mask, some candles, maybe some manacles...? Anyways, then you were born!


So the long and short of it is ... no.

OK. Well, thanks for the responses!


Share the end goal and maybe we could think of something that's close enough. You could go with a ley line guardian witch with a healing patron. You'd be spontaneous and have some healing spells and restoration spells, that would seem pretty close.


I think the closest you'll get to a divine gnome dragon disciple is to take the dragon mystery as a gnome oracle, perhaps with the covetous curse. There's plenty of dragonish flavour there if not exactly the same as a dragon disciple.


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VoodistMonk wrote:
Ryze Kuja wrote:
If your GM allows custom races, you could custom create a race with racial traits like a Gnome/Kobold hybrid, and then in your backstory you could say that your mother and father were Kobold and Gnome (or w/e you want). When I run campaigns, I usually allow custom races up to 15RP and that many points allows for plenty of customization for the player and isn't overpowered.
Well, you see, mommy was lonely Gnome that worshipped Lamashtu. And daddy was an adventurous Kobold who could be persuaded into just about anything with enough ale. There was a wierd night with a mask, some candles, maybe some manacles...? Anyways, then you were born!

Don't forget about the 13 albino midgets swinging from the chandelier with that t-shirt cannon XD XD XD


I don't think this will help much and it relies on a specific rules interpretation but there is actually a way to get kobold feats on a gnome.

We do this by counting as human and then doing racial heritage as normal. To count as human we use the Human Guise feat. Human Guise has three prerequisites:
1.shapechanger subtype
2.Change shape ability
3.the ability to change shape into a human

To satisfy 1. we worship Xhamen-Dor and take the Deific Obedience and the Diverse Obedience feats. This lets us pick Xhamen-Dor's second sentinel boon at 14th level to get the shapechanger subtype.

To satisfy 2. and 3. we pick up the Eldritch Heritage and the Improved Eldritch Heritage feats to get the oni bloodline's 3rd level ability:

Oni wrote:
Altered Form (Sp): At 3rd level, you gain the ability to change shape (as the spell alter self ) for a number of minutes per day equal to your sorcerer level.

While this ability isn't named change shape it literally gives you the ability to change shape and while I can't find it there is a faq or answer by Sean K. Reynolds that says that an ability does not have to be named the same as long as it does the same thing. (This part is the rules interpretation)


what specifically you want from your gnome side?
maybe you can you go with a human that took both racial heritage (gnome) and racial heritage (kobold) at 1st level?


zza ni wrote:

what specifically you want from your gnome side?

maybe you can you go with a human that took both racial heritage (gnome) and racial heritage (kobold) at 1st level?

Well, I was a gnome but more specifically a Spriggan. I have a mystic theurge build for it but I wanted to splash in the Dragon Disciple, too. It is ok. I can work without it.

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