Handling or Replacing Charm in Pathfinder Society Scenarios


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So, I've encountered this a few times where a monster specifically is supposed to cast charm on the PCs. The problem with this is that the conditions that this places on the characters specifically says they do not affect player characters. How should I handle this? It honestly feels like this spell just shouldn't ever be listed on a monster because it doesn't affect Players.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

I see nothing in the description of Charm stating it can't be used against PCs.

While the effect on "attitude" might be irrelevant, preventing "hostile actions" certainly works just fine.

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Friendly
"This condition reflects a creature's disposition toward a particular character, and only supernatural effects (like a spell) can impose this condition on a PC."

Charm is a spell. It can apply the Friendly condition to player characters.

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 *** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

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And player characters are suppose to act accordingly when under specific conditions.

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Though it is funny when someone tries charm/hold person on a "not a person" PC. (Outsider, plant, etc)

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Evilgm wrote:

Friendly

"This condition reflects a creature's disposition toward a particular character, and only supernatural effects (like a spell) can impose this condition on a PC."

Charm is a spell. It can apply the Friendly condition to player characters.

Crud. I was setting up my game in FoundryVTT and their condition info for Friendly specifically says it doesn't work on Player Characters. Now I know I need to double check questionable stuff like that with AoE before coming here.

Thanks everyone for the replies!

Liberty's Edge 3/5 5/5 *** Venture-Captain, Nebraska—Omaha

Zioalca wrote:
Evilgm wrote:

Friendly

"This condition reflects a creature's disposition toward a particular character, and only supernatural effects (like a spell) can impose this condition on a PC."

Charm is a spell. It can apply the Friendly condition to player characters.

Crud. I was setting up my game in FoundryVTT and their condition info for Friendly specifically says it doesn't work on Player Characters. Now I know I need to double check questionable stuff like that with AoE before coming here.

Thanks everyone for the replies!

And if there are still questions in your mind, check the actual book/PDF.

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In fairness (as one of the volunteers doing data entry in Foundry) the text we have is pre-errata/first printing. I'll get it updated. So if he actually checked in the first edition book he would have gotten what was in Foundry.

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