This is probably gonna sound oddly specific but here goes, is there an intelligence based casting class that has access to a mountable companion?


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Silver Crusade

For example Wisdom has Paladin with Radiant Knight and Charisma has a summoner with the quadruped form.


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Wizard!
No seriously. You just have to play a small size wizard, and use a Mauler familiar with a decent Str. EG a Wayang with a Fox.

Dark Archive

Poleiheira Adherent.


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Living Grimoire with Feather/Animal Domain.

Winged Marauder/Construct Rider Alchemist

Anybody with three feats to burn can do Nature Soul, Animal Ally, Boon Companion.

Silver Crusade

Any wizard that makes use of planar binding. No mount feature needed haha.


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Scavion wrote:
Anybody with three feats to burn can do Nature Soul, Animal Ally, Boon Companion.

I came to make this suggestion, literally any class can do it if you're willing to dedicate some feats to it, you can have it at level 4. Boon Companion to get its level up to yours so it's not overly squishy.

Silver Crusade

Claxon wrote:
Scavion wrote:
Anybody with three feats to burn can do Nature Soul, Animal Ally, Boon Companion.
I came to make this suggestion, literally any class can do it if you're willing to dedicate some feats to it, you can have it at level 4. Boon Companion to get its level up to yours so it's not overly squishy.

My issue with that is it comes up much later then i would like so i would need something to do in the meantime.


A magus could get a familiar, like Lucy Valentine's wizard suggestion. Level 3+. Witches obviously get one from the start, and arcanists can if they want.

Reliquarian occultists need Int to cast spells but Wis for mental focus. They get a domain which could be animal (with or without subdomain).

An inquisitor like the living grimoire Scavion mentions is better to choose the chivalry inquisition IMO.


Sage sorcerer with Ampoule of False Blood (Sylvan)?


Mount spell?

The Exchange

The easiest way to do this is going to be using the animal domain (gives you any druid animal companion) or saurian subdomain (gives you a dinosaur companion) or the chivalry inquisition (gives you a mount as the cavalier class feature). With the inquisition you get it at 1st level, but for the domains it's the second domain ability, so you have to get that second ability (which rules out some classes).

Using this method I can think of:
Inquisitor (Living Grimoire): Animal, Saurian, or Chivalry
Occultist (Reliquarian): Animal, Saurian or Chivalry
Medium (Uda Wendo): Chivalry (iffy but looks like it works, and only at 1/2 level).

The Exchange

Is there a way for a bard to get a companion other than Nature Soul/Animal Ally? The Chronicler of Worlds makes bard an Int-based class.


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Malik Gyan Daumantas wrote:
Claxon wrote:
Scavion wrote:
Anybody with three feats to burn can do Nature Soul, Animal Ally, Boon Companion.
I came to make this suggestion, literally any class can do it if you're willing to dedicate some feats to it, you can have it at level 4. Boon Companion to get its level up to yours so it's not overly squishy.
My issue with that is it comes up much later then i would like so i would need something to do in the meantime.

Buy a horse?


If anyone can find a spell that makes your Familiar grow to Large, that would be great. Yes the Mauler has this, but ONLY to Medium. Yes the Polymorph Familiar change its shape according to Beast Shape 1 to 4... but ONLY for Small... Yeah...

It's like you need to reverse-engineer the concept, like having a Large companion, that you shrink down to a Familiar-sized version. If you have a Tiger, you polymorph it into a hoursecat.


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JiCi wrote:
If anyone can find a spell that makes your Familiar grow to Large, that would be great.

Use share spells with beast shape 1. Done.


Does the alchemist count as a caster class? They have the construct rider.

I'm a bit surprised there isn't a mounted magus archetype.


For a mounted Magus you just follow the same guidelines for Familiars - a Magus can get a Familiar with an Arcana by level 2; by level 3 you've got a Medium sized Mauler.

The same would apply to Arcanist, Witch or other Int-based casters that can get a Familiar. Remember that one Improved Familiar is a Homunculus and there are rules to enhancing homunculi in order to increase it's size.

A summoner can use their Eidolon as a mount. a Quadruped base form starts at Medium size so if your PC is Medium you need a reliable way of increasing it's size. Mount is a 1 pt Evolution.

The only other thing I could think of, specifically to gain the Mount class ability would be to take a level dip into a class that grants that ability. Picking one with Martial Weapon proficiency would in turn qualify you as an Eldritch Knight later on.


Yeah, I know you can cobble together a mounted magus. The weird thing is that there isn't one by default. A mounted magus seems like something we should just have an archetype for.


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I think a mounted Bard archetype makes way more sense, personally... the whole spear and banner thing.

Get Mount and Banner at level one, Cavalier's Charge at 5, Greater Banner at 10, and Mighty Charge at 15... it would replace Bardic Knowledge and Lore Master.


avr wrote:
JiCi wrote:
If anyone can find a spell that makes your Familiar grow to Large, that would be great.
Use share spells with beast shape 1. Done.

Oh, right... THAT feature :P

Beast Shape II would be required for a Large animal though, and you... might need to cast a few spells to grant enhancement bonuses to stats, because Beast Shape doesn't increase the stats by much.

A cat familiar transmuted into a tiger won't have 24+ in Str :P


JiCi wrote:
If anyone can find a spell that makes your Familiar grow to Large, that would be great.

Not quite what you asked for, but Undersized Mount gets you riding a medium mauler while being medium. Of course, weight is a potential issue, best go for something quadrupedal.

Edit to add: from published material, I think your best bet is a Fox. This gives a weight limit of 118lbs at level 3, unless I've missed something, which is really hard for a medium character. So maybe trade in the base feat for magic-item-use as a feat and then go for Muleback Cords, which gives you a wider choice of familiars.


Soul Binder Wizard with literally any of the many tricks listed to ride your Familiar. As a bonus, you can give your Familiar feats... which is neat. If you make it a Prankster Familiar, it gets more feats. If you start with a Cha Cha Slide in Fighter, you can share all your combat feats with it.


Summoner with a quadruped eidolon....


Lucy_Valentine wrote:

Wizard!

No seriously. You just have to play a small size wizard, and use a Mauler familiar with a decent Str. EG a Wayang with a Fox.

If you're small, you can take Undersized Mount and have a pig as your familiar. No need for Mauler!


Scavion wrote:
Winged Marauder

Before saying that only goblins can use it, pretty sure that any Medium race can become one. While the Dire Bat and Giant Vulture are mentioned, the Roc, Giant Owl, Pteranodon, Quetzalcoatlus and Yolubilis Heron can be used.


Malik Gyan Daumantas wrote:
For example Wisdom has Paladin with Radiant Knight and Charisma has a summoner with the quadruped form.

What you do with your companion is between you and them.


JiCi wrote:
Scavion wrote:
Winged Marauder
Before saying that only goblins can use it, pretty sure that any Medium race can become one. While the Dire Bat and Giant Vulture are mentioned, the Roc, Giant Owl, Pteranodon, Quetzalcoatlus and Yolubilis Heron can be used.
winged marauder wrote:
This works as the druid animal companion class feature, except the marauder must select a dire bat or giant vulture.
short description of winged marauder wrote:
(Goblin Only) Goblin alchemists have created a mixture of pheromones that they use to manipulate and entice giant vultures or dire bats to do their bidding.

It could be adapted in the way you say but as written both your statements above are incorrect JiCi.

Dark Archive

JiCi wrote:
Scavion wrote:
Winged Marauder
Before saying that only goblins can use it, pretty sure that any Medium race can become one. While the Dire Bat and Giant Vulture are mentioned, the Roc, Giant Owl, Pteranodon, Quetzalcoatlus and Yolubilis Heron can be used.

But its a Goblin racial archetype, so you need to qualify via race. Which is doable for some races via Racial Heritage feat, but thats a small selection

also " must select a dire bat or giant vulture." doesnt let you pick any of those other options

The Exchange

JiCi wrote:
Scavion wrote:
Winged Marauder
Before saying that only goblins can use it, pretty sure that any Medium race can become one. While the Dire Bat and Giant Vulture are mentioned, the Roc, Giant Owl, Pteranodon, Quetzalcoatlus and Yolubilis Heron can be used.
Monster Codex wrote:
New Rules...Many of these options are restricted specifically to a given race, but some can be taken by any characters who meet the requirements to do so.
Monster Codex wrote:

GOBLIN ARCHETYPE

The following archetype is available to goblins.
Winged Marauder (Alchemist)

Compare to:

Monster Codex wrote:

ORC FEATS

The following feats are common among orcs, but they can be taken by other races as well.

or

Monster Codex wrote:

KOBOLD TRAPS

The following traps are available to kobolds. At the GM's discretion, other races can also make use of these traps.


Unless it has some racial component to it, my general rule of thumb is to allow it. Same for Favored Class Bonuses.


In a home game I'd allow it for non-goblins. Because it's cool.


The thing is that... what logical rules prevent other races from taking these archetypes?

I would have understood if those archetypes REQUIRED a race's traits and abilities in order for some abilities to work, but right now, I don't see anything that would prevent an elven alchemist to ride a giant owl as a Winged Marauder.

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