Alien lawful deity


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I'm wondering if there's a deity that has the same visual themes as the outer gods often do (tentacles, amorphous shadowy blob covered in fangs/eyes, etc...), but is lawful or good (and preferably lawful good).

Alternatively, one that is mechanical looking, but still not resembling a humanoid (so not Brigh for example). Like the whole 'wheels within wheels' thing from the christian bible.

I just want a really freaky, terrifying looking, alien deity, but that is actually nice.


Not good, but it sounds like there could be something in the Inevitables worth looking for here with the mechanical perfection of law and order

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Flumphs are both LG and pretty tentacle-y, though they aren't a deity of course.

The big issue with Good deities who are truly horrifying looking is that deities can shapeshift and Good ones tend to take comforting forms so as not to traumatize their worshipers. There's a lot of evidence that Desna is, originally, some kind of gigantic space insect...but she appears as a pretty elf lady so as not to freak folks out.


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Sibelius Eos Owm wrote:
Not good, but it sounds like there could be something in the Inevitables worth looking for here with the mechanical perfection of law and order

Yeah, if I can’t find a good one I’ll look at the inevitables (maybe even the psychopomps).

Deadmanwalking wrote:

Flumphs are both LG and pretty tentacle-y, though they aren't a deity of course.

The big issue with Good deities who are truly horrifying looking is that deities can shapeshift and Good ones tend to take comforting forms so as not to traumatize their worshipers. There's a lot of evidence that Desna is, originally, some kind of gigantic space insect...but she appears as a pretty elf lady so as not to freak folks out.

Agreed, and if I just really can’t find something that fits I can certainly run with that. But many of the deities do have descriptions for their appearance, and I’d like to stick with that default if at all possible.


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If you're willing to compromise on 'Good' and 'Tentacle/Teeth' in favour of 'Law' and 'Formless and Incomprehensible', there's always the Monad. The transcendental undersoul, described as the void before creation and the future infinity.

As for the primal inevitables, Otolmens looks and spins like an orrery with multiple heads and arms AND already has 2e deity stats. Two other, undescribed, agender primordial inevitables exist as well as Valmallos who is a mechanical giant with a glowing heart, so not quite what you are aiming for.

Speaking of the psychopomp ushers, Mother Vulture has a true form which is distinctly terrifying looking, befitting of a class of demon.

I feel like there must be an empyreal lord I can't remember with a distinctly less-human appearance, but I think most examples would be animalistic agathion lords or perhaps an azata lord, rather than something entirely alien...

The least humanoid LG deity aside from those I think must be Apsu, the dragon


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While I like the Monad, I don’t think it quite works for what I’m going for.

Mother Vulture is close, but she’s more monstrous than alien (I apologize if that’s vague and unhelpful, I’m not entirely sure how to explain the difference in my mind).

Otolmens might be the closest, I can’t remember exactly what she looks like off the top of my head. I’ll have to wait until I can open up Concordance of Rivals and check.

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Looking through Chronicles of the Righteous, Irez the NG Empyreal Lord of cards, scribes, and spells has the lower body of a snake, giant bat wings for arms, and a generally frog-looking skin tone. She's not exactly hideous, but she does not look remotely human.


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Again not a deity, but there are Elder Things which are known to be quite intelligent. If I remember my lore right, they even made these things which are pretty horrifying and alien. Perhaps an Elder Thing managed to ascend to divinity, somehow?

There are also the Anunnaki who uplift civilizations. They are described as being pretty alien, and their write-up says that they can go rogue, so if one could become radically evil then another could logically become good, lawful, or both.
Heck for that matter there are their rivals, the Elohim, though they seem less interested in anything that isn't growing animals, so may not be as easy a fit.

And of course, you can always crib from the deities in the Starfinder setting, like Hylax, the Forever Queen.

Hope that helped.


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There's also a fun little fringe theory that Desna is, in fact, the sole good-aligned Outer God, and that her true form is some kind of enormous, monstrous space butterfly.

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martinaj wrote:
There's also a fun little fringe theory that Desna is, in fact, the sole good-aligned Outer God, and that her true form is some kind of enormous, monstrous space butterfly.

I mean, only that first part of fringe. Her being a giant butterfly is pretty close to confirmed.


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martinaj wrote:
There's also a fun little fringe theory that Desna is, in fact, the sole good-aligned Outer God, and that her true form is some kind of enormous, monstrous space butterfly.

As I understand it James Jacobs has shot down the "Desna as good Outer God" multiple times.


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Irez does seem like the best fit, though she falls under the same monstrous category that Mother Vulture does.

I had never heard of the anunnaki before. The disagreement between them and the Elohim is very interesting. I might could play with that.

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SOLDIER-1st wrote:
I'm wondering if there's a deity that has the same visual themes as the outer gods often do (tentacles, amorphous shadowy blob covered in fangs/eyes, etc...), but is lawful or good (and preferably lawful good).

I feel like tentacles and amorphous fits more on the chaos side of things, aesthetically, and a monstrous lawful entity might be more insectile, with long spindly legs and perhaps even a spider-y theme, sitting on a metaphorical web of fate, attempting to 'correct' 'the pattern' by rearranging threads. (Which, being lawful and good, would reflect in the material world through it's priests trying to develop treaties and boundaries and systems by which the many different peoples of the world can co-exist more or less harmoniously, to the benefit of all.)

It would have domains like Community, in that it attempts to foster cooperation and coordination, and focus perhaps a tad more on Law over Good, particularly in the areas of treaties between regional powers, and boundaries between territories (but also other systems that organize groups into more efficient and productive ways, such as merchant guilds, trade agreements, etc.). Some of the more LN-leaning adherents might even go so far as to encouraging caste-systems, while other LG purists consider that sort of thing bordering on heresy...

It might come across visually as kind of a mirror opposite to Azathoth, who is a giant 'blind idiot god' at the center of creation, in some depictions, in that it squats at a 'center' of a giant web of connections to all of creation and tries to find a safe and productive role for each of these threads, while being aware that some 'threads' don't play well with others and might need to be placed elsewhere on the tapestry...

As it has an interest in sort of micromanaging a 'harmonious tapestry' containing all the present elements, it's long-term goals aren't always to the benefit of one race (such as humans or dwarves or elves) in particular, if it feels that a certain area would be more productively allocated to some other species that the stronger people would rather displace (or eliminate).

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I mean octopi civilization is very lawful indeed ;p

8 is perfectly balanced number shaped like infinity symbol turned sideways!


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SOLDIER-1st wrote:
I'm wondering if there's a deity that has the same visual themes as the outer gods often do (tentacles, amorphous shadowy blob covered in fangs/eyes, etc...), but is lawful or good (and preferably lawful good).

I feel like tentacles and amorphous fits more on the chaos side of things, aesthetically, and a monstrous lawful entity might be more insectile, with long spindly legs and perhaps even a spider-y theme, sitting on a metaphorical web of fate, attempting to 'correct' 'the pattern' by rearranging threads. (Which, being lawful and good, would reflect in the material world through it's priests trying to develop treaties and boundaries and systems by which the many different peoples of the world can co-exist more or less harmoniously, to the benefit of all.)

It would have domains like Community, in that it attempts to foster cooperation and coordination, and focus perhaps a tad more on Law over Good, particularly in the areas of treaties between regional powers, and boundaries between territories (but also other systems that organize groups into more efficient and productive ways, such as merchant guilds, trade agreements, etc.). Some of the more LN-leaning adherents might even go so far as to encouraging caste-systems, while other LG purists consider that sort of thing bordering on heresy...

It might come across visually as kind of a mirror opposite to Azathoth, who is a giant 'blind idiot god' at the center of creation, in some depictions, in that it squats at a 'center' of a giant web of connections to all of creation and tries to find a safe and productive role for each of these threads, while being aware that some 'threads' don't play well with others and might need to be placed elsewhere on the tapestry...

As it has an interest in sort of micromanaging a 'harmonious tapestry' containing all the present elements, it's long-term goals aren't always to the benefit of one race (such as humans or dwarves or elves) in particular, if it feels that a certain area...

You basically described the goddess Hylax from Starfinder.


^ Except for the spidery aspects, it's pretty close! :D

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I mean picture for Forever Queen of Nchak does exist in distant planets book :p

Unless I remember wrong and am confusing it for one of the other alien pictures in my memory

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The NPC wrote:
martinaj wrote:
There's also a fun little fringe theory that Desna is, in fact, the sole good-aligned Outer God, and that her true form is some kind of enormous, monstrous space butterfly.
As I understand it James Jacobs has shot down the "Desna as good Outer God" multiple times.

Which make sense since Desna was one of the 8 (at least) primordial deities born from Pharasma's spiraling steps at the beginning of the current multiverse. Whereas the Outer Gods apparently predate the multiverse but exist outside it.


CorvusMask wrote:

I mean picture for Forever Queen of Nchak does exist in distant planets book :p

Unless I remember wrong and am confusing it for one of the other alien pictures in my memory

It's revealed in Starfinder that the Forever Queen is Hylax's mortal incarnation, or something like that.


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Do Flumphs have a god? If so, I assume it would be like this.

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