Harm Cleric build does everything look ok?


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Just putting together a Harm (Castdown) type build for a Cloistered Cleric. The idea is to be both able to be within touch range (will have
Heightened Invisibility) to land those single action Harms but also occasionally be able to stay a few feet behind the front liners by casting spells like Weapon Storm or if I need to be further back will have Searing Light or ranged two action Harm + Castdown etc. Please let me know what you would do differently, but more importantly if this build is legal. I hope I am understanding Syncretism correctly and all alignments are legal for Champion Dedication etc. I believe this build has 2 focus points? The Destruction Domain is so I can pull off 2 Crys of Destruction per fight. Seems pretty solid after a Harm giving me those juicy D12s. I have enough Fort save spells, Weapon Storm gives me Reflex and eventually with Crossblooded will acquire Synesthesia for the Will save.

Half Elf
Deity Raumya

Str 10
Dex 12 (+)
Con 12 (+)
Int 10
Wis 18 (+)
Cha 16 (+)

1- Domain Initiate (free) (Knowledge)
1- Harming Hands
2- Syncretism (Destruction domain) - Nethys
4- Sorcerer Dedication
6- Cast Down
8- Basic Blood Potency - Dangerous Sorcery
9- Ancestry Feat Multitalented Champion Dedication
10- Advanced Domain (Knowledge)
12- Champions Reaction: Glimpse of Redemption
14- Domain Focus
16- Advanced Blood Potency - Crossblooded
18- Eternal Blessing
20- Metamagic Channel


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I am almost sure that Crossblooded spell only work for Sorcerer spellslots and repertoire.


Ohh, what would you recommend in its place Boss? I'd love to get my hands on a killer spell, like Synesthesia or Time Beacon or something but not sure if it's possible


I was looking into it more, and I was considering even replacing Destruction domain (Nethys) with Stag Mother of the Forest of Stones for the Pain Domain (Savor the Sting). I do have solid Fort save spells already (mostly Harm but lots of others on the Divine list). I use to think Savor the Sting was pretty weak but looking at it a bit more closely it does Target Will which is better than Fort, on top of that it's a single action that's the real winner to me. Having to be in touch range is ok for this particular cloistered. Any thoughts on Savor the Sting? Or would Withering Grasp simply be a better option for a melee touch power and landing it would be likely with Raumya giving True Strike as a spell.


Highly recommend Directed Channel - turn Harm into a 60’ cone. Selective Energy even better as you can pretty much throw them out without needing your allies to be out of the way. 60’ cone is huge, and lets you sit in the back and blast away.

Doesn’t work with Cast Down which is your ST damage dealer, but does work with Harming Hands.

Not sure your Sorc blood but if you go undead you get access to healing allies with Harm


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Because you are planning to get close maybe using the Psychopomp sorcerer focus spell might be nice, will save damage each round on emanation that gives a will debuff and last one minute.


Interesting, Tentacular Limbs also looks like it has potential? Would Touch Domain Powers like Withering Grasp apply to Tentacular Limbs?


Sepulchral Mask looks good, only issue would be it wouldn't work while I'm Invisible it seems


Just realized an issue with the Harm Cleric, if I'm in melee range of a dragon or another bruiser each time I use the Touch version of Harm im going to eat an AOO aren't I? If so, this completely makes me rethink this build.


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Atalius wrote:
Just realized an issue with the Harm Cleric, if I'm in melee range of a dragon or another bruiser each time I use the Touch version of Harm im going to eat an AOO aren't I? If so, this completely makes me rethink this build.

Depends on the Dragon and creature.

Black Dragon for instance only cares if you "take an action to Strike or attempt a skill check"

So harm would work fine.


Right, but I mean anyone with a Reaction of "Attack of Opportunity" is going to tear me apart no?


Atalius wrote:
Right, but I mean anyone with a Reaction of "Attack of Opportunity" is going to tear me apart no?

Yes, but AoO is not common enough to scrap a build over. Just plan your contingency routine for creatures that hit back.


I'm really looking for a Will Save spell that's very good, the Divine list is lacking for those, would it be advisable to grab Basic Sorcerer Spell casting and snatch up Hideous Laughter? I guess I could go without Champions Reaction since that's just going to give the enemy more reason to attack me, which is probably not what I want being a frontline Cloistered (even with Invisibility).

If I did do away with Champions Reaction is Champion Dedication still ok to grab at level 9? Simply for the armor prof.


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The armour is very good to have.

You could also look at picking up Lay on Hands to compensate for not having Healing Font.

For a Will save spell, the new Agonizing Despair is pretty solid. Good range, okay damage, inflicts fear. Nothing spectacular, but an excellent workhorse spell for all kinds of situations.


Thank you Gentleman, would it be an idea to grab the Selfish Shield Champion Reaction (Neutral Evil)? The Deity does have that alignment. Is it a good power to protect myself? Or will it not scale well when I'm say level 18? As for Lay on Hands we have a dedicated healer so I think we are good there, and a somewhat secondary healer.

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