Raditation vs. Life Bubble


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Grand Lodge

Pretty straightforward question?

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/traps-hazards-and-special-terrains/h azards/environmental-hazards/radiation/
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/l/life-bubble/

Would a character with life bubble need to worry about the dangers of being within an area of radiation?


I would say no. The same spell from related games, Starfinder and Starjammer, explicitly exclude radiation. The spell is pretty good already, and adding radiation is making it a bit too good in my book.


Radiation isn't a gas, liquid or inhaled. Radiation is a poison that takes effect when something enters the area that is irradiated. The radiation passes through solid objects.

So no, Life Bubble won't provide protection from radiation. If you want to be protected from radiation use items or abilities that protect from poison.

Delay Poison will limit exposure. Neutralize Poison can be applied before Delay Poison wears off to prevent the need for saves. The neutralize poison would have to beat out the poison's DC for this to work.


Meirril wrote:

Radiation isn't a gas, liquid or inhaled. Radiation is a poison that takes effect when something enters the area that is irradiated. The radiation passes through solid objects.

So no, Life Bubble won't provide protection from radiation. If you want to be protected from radiation use items or abilities that protect from poison.

Delay Poison will limit exposure. Neutralize Poison can be applied before Delay Poison wears off to prevent the need for saves. The neutralize poison would have to beat out the poison's DC for this to work.

Yes, but no radiation passing through solid object.

For instance, the fuel rods from nuclear reactors (which are still very radioactive even after their fuel has been expended) are often stored in pools. And the water is so effective at mitigation the radiation that you could swim at the top of the pool without risking a significant (health risking) amount of radiation exposure. Now, the pools are relatively deep (about 20ft for mitigation) though are often deeper for extra safety.

Lead is also very effective at stopping radiation. And it's common to have steel jacket encased concrete enclosures as long term storage solutions to radioactive waste.

Different materials have different capabilities to block radiation, and it's usually a question of how thick do I have to make this to prevent radiation from being a danger.


Claxon wrote:


Yes, but no radiation passing through solid object.

I'm not talking about real radiation. The rules literally say it passes through solid objects!

Radiation wrote:
Area of Effect: Radiation suffuses a spherical area of effect that can extend into solid objects.


Meirril wrote:
Claxon wrote:


Yes, but no radiation passing through solid object.

I'm not talking about real radiation. The rules literally say it passes through solid objects!

Radiation wrote:
Area of Effect: Radiation suffuses a spherical area of effect that can extend into solid objects.

Fair enough


I agree with the others. You would be protected from a radioactive gas (it wouldn't contact you) but not from emitted radiation from a pile of plutonium or meson-cannon or X-ray machine or fallout from Ground Zero or just background radiation.


Isn't radiation a poison effect?

So couldn't they just run around with delay poison. It's not a wizard spell, but we're also talking about a 20th level mythic rank 10 wizard here right?

So they probably have some means.


Claxon wrote:

Isn't radiation a poison effect?

So couldn't they just run around with delay poison. It's not a wizard spell, but we're also talking about a 20th level mythic rank 10 wizard here right?

So they probably have some means.

I think you're thinking of this thread

The OP was just asking purely how life bubble would interact with radiation and nothing more.

delay poison is an excellent way to make yourself effectively immune to all poison effects. I had a high level cleric that included delay poison (w/ a metamagic rod of extend) and hero's feast as part of their daily buffs. In this way even if my character got hit with a poison effect I would never suffer the effects of it before it was removed by the feast. Even if it took multiple feasts to remove it.


LordKailas wrote:
Claxon wrote:

Isn't radiation a poison effect?

So couldn't they just run around with delay poison. It's not a wizard spell, but we're also talking about a 20th level mythic rank 10 wizard here right?

So they probably have some means.

I think you're thinking of this thread

The OP was just asking purely how life bubble would interact with radiation and nothing more.

delay poison is an excellent way to make yourself effectively immune to all poison effects. I had a high level cleric that included delay poison (w/ a metamagic rod of extend) and hero's feast as part of their daily buffs. In this way even if my character got hit with a poison effect I would never suffer the effects of it before it was removed by the feast. Even if it took multiple feasts to remove it.

Good call. I was definitely thinking of the other thread, where I think this question came from.

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