No level 9 / 13 ancestry feats for Half-Elf?

[bearcatbd]

I have players hitting level 9 who are half-elf and there is no ancestry feat beyond 5th in the CRB. Seems odd since there are for half-orc. Has anyone heard if more ancestry feats specific to half-elf coming in the APG coming out soon?

[Salamileg]

Half-orcs don't actually get their own level 9 and 13 feats, as those feats have the orc trait, not the half-orc trait. They were just included because half-elves got the entire elven ancestry to pick from for feats, half-orcs' other half was an ancestry that didn't exist yet.

That said, the level 9 feat Multitalented gives extra bonuses to half-elves.

[The Gleeful Grognard]

Does it matter? They get the human and elf feats, and it isn't like you are locked to level equal ancestry feats.

[Captain Morgan]

The Gleeful Grognard wrote:

Does it matter? They get the human and elf feats, and it isn't like you are locked to level equal ancestry feats.

Yeah I suspect the OP and their players maybe didn't understand that being a half elf lets you take any of those.

[bearcatbd]

No, it's understood they get human, elf, or half-elf feats. Seems like choices are just very limited because the few that are available at 9th may have a prerequisite, which if you don't have, makes it one choice or nothing.

I did see that half-elf gets an advantage on Multitalented which is nice. Just wish there were a few more options.

[Ramanujan]

bearcatbd wrote:

No, it's understood they get human, elf, or half-elf feats. Seems like choices are just very limited because the few that are available at 9th may have a prerequisite, which if you don't have, makes it one choice or nothing.

I did see that half-elf gets an advantage on Multitalented which is nice. Just wish there were a few more options.

You can also take lower level feats and grab those prerequisites.

And as a third choice, you can retrain your previous choices in order to swap those old choices into the prerequisites.

[Kendaan]

You can also retrain a general feat for adopted ancestry, Half Elves probably have the most choice in ancestry feats.

[Tender Tendrils]

It is generally intended that one or two of the ancestry feats you take are additional lower level ones.

[HumbleGamer]

Salamileg wrote:

Half-orcs don't actually get their own level 9 and 13 feats, as those feats have the orc trait, not the half-orc trait. They were just included because half-elves got the entire elven ancestry to pick from for feats, half-orcs' other half was an ancestry that didn't exist yet.

That said, the level 9 feat Multitalented gives extra bonuses to half-elves.

Agree, but it has to be said that by lvl 9 a half orc can un lock Pervasive superstition, which is probably on of the best passive racial skill in the game.

[Captain Morgan]

bearcatbd wrote:

No, it's understood they get human, elf, or half-elf feats. Seems like choices are just very limited because the few that are available at 9th may have a prerequisite, which if you don't have, makes it one choice or nothing.

I did see that half-elf gets an advantage on Multitalented which is nice. Just wish there were a few more options.

Elves have Elf Step and Bright Seeker, and with multitalented your half elf has 3 options without prerequisites. Gnomes have one. Goblins have one. (Two or those are outside of the CRB, but it isn't like any ancestry has much to choose from by this metric.)

We just don't have that many high level ancestry feats period, and those we have tend to be tied to prerequisites, as you pointed out.

[Arklore]

Half-Elf has plenty of options IMHO. I have 6th, soon to be 7th level Champion and I love the flexibility of options that I have. I have the PC/build that I want and cannot wait to see what the APG will have to offer.