Eldritch Secret and Adaptive Casting


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So, Eldritch Secret allows a witchwarper to add a specific mystic or technomancer spell to their list of witchwarper spells known as per its rules:

Eldritch Secret wrote:
Select one spell from the mystic or technomancer spell list. It must be of a level no greater than 1 lower than the highest-level spell you can cast. Add this to your list of witchwarper spells known.

In addition, the Adaptive Casting feat allows a caster to choose spells from a class spell list that they can cast spells from, and gain some as spell-likes.

Adaptive Casting wrote:
Select three spells from class spell lists you can cast spells from. They must be at least 1 level lower than the highest spell level you can cast. Once per day, you can cast one of these spells as a spell-like ability. Each time you gain a caster level, you can change which three spells you have selected with this feat.

My question is, could this allow a witchwarper to learn mystic spells as spell-likes gained via Adaptive Casting? For example, if a witchwarper uses Eldritch Secret to learn Mind Thrust (the Mystic spell), can they then use Adaptive Casting to select other Mystic spells for use as spell-likes?

TLDR; Does Eldritch Secret allow a witchwarper to use Adaptive Casting to gain mystic spells as spell-likes?


Eldritch secret adds a spell to the list of spells known. It does not add to your class spell list, which is what adaptive casting references.

So, no.


Having read the relevant data... I would allow it, beacuse a once a day spell for an anemic Caster class that requires level 7 and a feat.. is only a little better than a spellthrower fusion gun that has decent range.

But as most would say
"Is it for sfs?"

Then follow up with
"That's banned or booned out"
and
"Ask your GM..."
waves hand at examples


No.

If a witchwarper adds mystic cure to the witchwarper spell list, they aren't casting spells from the mystic spell list. They're casting spells from the witchwarper list, which for them now includes mystic cure.


So Eldritch Secret is effectively taking a spell from another spell list and making it part of the witchwarper spell list (for that individual, at least).

Thanks. Don't know why I didn't interpret it right sooner.

So, with Adaptive Casting, a witchwarper with a 1 level dip in Mystic would be able to make use of some higher level mystic spells (i.e., if he could cast 4th level witchwarper spells, he could use Adaptive Casting to gain some 3rd level mystic spells as spell-likes).

Is that right?


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ZeroShifter wrote:

So, with Adaptive Casting, a witchwarper with a 1 level dip in Mystic would be able to make use of some higher level mystic spells (i.e., if he could cast 4th level witchwarper spells, he could use Adaptive Casting to gain some 3rd level mystic spells as spell-likes).

Is that right?

Raw is arguable in both directions RAI is probably a no.

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