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I am thinking everyone is creating the scenarios on their VTT of choice. I have been on Roll 20 and it would be cool if the could get them in the market place. Roll20 PF2 seems to have a ton of support (CRB, Bestiary, GMG)....so maybe some PFS also? :)
Its probably hard to find a market for these when its relatively easy for people to make and share their own.
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I would pay for official scenarios that have all the maps, tokens, monsters, NPCs, and macros ready to go.
Something like pfsprep for roll20 or google slides would be awesome.
I wish we could openly share our prep work but it breaks paizo’ s terms of use as maps and art belong to paizo. As it is you have to find people willing to share their work and let you copy their campaign.
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I shall quote Marketing Manager Aaron Shanks on this one (it's about APs, but same applies):
Just drop them a note on the Contact Us page of their website or their social media. Express enthusiasm for their product and what you would like to see. But to be honest, they know that demand is exploding. It will take time to meet that demand. So keep it polite and positive, if you would be so kind. And make sure you use what they have given for free!So who/where do we need to post to? Because this would definitely be the bomb.Right, Roll20 already has access to all our content. They can't adapt our games overnight, but every business adapts to customer demand.We play Fall of Plaguestone now on Roll20 and it works like a charm.
Can you please please also make the Age of Ashes adventure path modules available on Roll20?
That would save me so much time as a GM. I will pay good money for it.Ask Roll20. They are the ones that need to approach Paizo to licence it. AoA is on FantasyGrounds, so they should be able to get the rights, if it's ot already done. Roll20 also need time (and people) to process it and add the assets to their system. I wouldn't bet on getting it before a month or two if they start this right now. (they might already have started for all I know... or they decided to jump straight to Extinction Curse)
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... Looking at the APs they have right now on the market place... they don't have a lot of them. People need to ask for them more to show there's a demand. Because it doesn't seems like a priority for them right now.
Venture-Captain, Missouri—Columbia
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Hit them hard with forum posts, emails, and anything else that shows we're alive and well. All tables need to be marked Pathfinder Second Edition and use the official Roll20 sheet whether you actually use the sheet in games or not.
There's a community roundtable coming up on April 23rd. Participate in it. Ask repeatedly for PF2 and PFS2 stuff.
Squeaky wheel gets the grease.
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So it seems Paizo can do this. Maybe the community could help since we are all doing this anyway. Anyone can build and submit a module to ROll20 as long as they have the license...
https://roll20.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360037773353-Module-Creation
I am sure there are legal things I do not understand but I would submit my work to Paizo to list out there for sale or for free if they wanted it.
I guess you would have to discuss Flipmaps and Maptiles in the adventure...maybe this could be listed out there too. Basically giving the same discount based owning them in PDF form. Seems liek they would be pretty cheap if you own the PDF
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I do all the pathfinder society conversions on Fantasy grounds, I just came on the forum to check for errata for the adventure I am converting currently.
No reason why someone can't convert a module on Roll20 ( it would be a lot less work than doing it on Fantasy grounds as there is less automation) submit it to and then Roll20 need to get the approval of Paizo-this can take some time. That's what i did for Fantasy Grounds
One thing to bear in mind is that you need to a lot more work to get it ready for commercial release than if you were doing the conversion just for your self. When I use to do it for my self i could convert an adventure in less than an hour. Sort the maps out , import the stats blocks with some code straight from the pdf and I was done, I would spend longer sorting out chronicle sheets! Now I have to import the all the text and art from Indesign and paintshop files that Paizo supply and the reformat it all for Fantasy grounds to cover every possible CP encounter. I did a Pathfinder society quest the other day with one encounter in it, i needed to build 16 slightly different encounters to cover CP8+ to CP32+
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I did reach out to roll20 in December, January and again now when PaizoCon was announced that I would be interested to add all PFS scenarios to roll20.
I even generated a few example tables - including full texts.
I got a message back in January that PFS wasn't a priority right now and that licencing is 'complicated'. I haven't heard back from my last inquiry. I didn't ask for much - but yes - I wanted enough to at least cover the cost of pdf and my roll20 licence.
I'm happy to either pay my own money (like for Plaguestone) and buy from roll20 or to spend a lot of my time and build it up for others.
If you need a table for PaizoCon on roll20: I have at least the ok from Paizo to share my tables for the con. Since yesterday I caught up again and have now everything Season 1 including 1-19. This is without the text which I have prepared for several scenarios but no longer add.
All the tables are close to Plaguestone quality (minus the text).
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the licencing complication for Fantasy-grounds and i imagine the same issue apples to Roll20 is that usually Paizo have generous policy that if you buy the pdf from them you get a discount of the price of the pdf off the purchase of the fantasy Grounds/Roll20 conversion or if you haven't bought the PDF you get a free PDF from Paizo. Fantasy grounds and Roll20 seem to price their conversions at the same price of the physical product from Paizo. If they did this with the Pathfinder society conversions they would effectively be giving them away so fantasy grounds doesn't do the free PDF sync on PFS and SFS adventures.
A few people were a bit upset about this at the time of the first release.
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Venture-Agent, Finland—Tampere
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Roll20 modules would have much better map resolution than anything I can make at least :p
Either way though, its pretty much about how much they know people would like to have the content. Like 1e content on roll20 has dried up presumably because it sold much less than 5e content(especially when PF 2e was going to be a thing). And even then Starfinder content, while presumably under development, doesn't really have much of presence when compared to D&D 5e "new books coming up" list :p
Like it does take forever for out of abyss and dm's guide for 5e to come out, but they clearly do prioritize new 5e releases as top priority. Starfinder doesn't have any announced products, though at least 2e has bestiary 2 as pre-orderable product.
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You've also got the issue that the starfinder simple sheet is a lot more popular than the official sheet that the bestiary would come in. Since the sheet works with the table, you'd need to switch over for people to make any use out of the bestiary. I'd rather do the monsters from scratch than have to redo all of the characters
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Venture-Agent, Finland—Tampere
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I run into problem where I bought 1e bestiary(to support 1e products and get the tokens) from roll20 and it turns out it disables prd so I can't anymore import bestiary 1 monsters directly to community sheet since the compendium monsters that come with it are compatible only with their official not so good sheet ._.
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Venture-Captain, Missouri—Columbia
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I don't think Roll20 will do anything more with 1e so that's kind of moot. The 2e line is what I want to look at the most. I am starting to look at running SFS, but will almost certainly do so with the CRB and Alien Archives which means official sheet. As a GM, it would work better for me with the SFS line because only the players would have to redo their sheets.
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Venture-Captain, Missouri—Columbia
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I don't know why you would need the core rulebook roll20 thingy to run anything on roll20
There is no absolute need for it. However, it is about time and what it is worth to me. I can do more with the purchased 2e CRB thus giving me more time to do other things. I like the spells to show up in the chat window when they get cast so everyone can see what is going on. The description, SAR, damage, save type, critical effects, and so forth are right there. It saves time in games. So that's a double win for me as a GM plus as a player.
As Roll20 gets more of it into drag and drop, players can have their feats in the character sheet. That is also helpful for everyone when questions arise. It is very helpful for GMs who may not have played that class or encountered the feat. It makes for a great learning tool.
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I just started VTT play and I’m fairly sheet-agnostic (and VTT agnostic). Over the weekend I played and GMed in games using the Roll20 Starfinder sheet, Simple Starfinder sheet, and a 1E FantasyGrounds game. I find that the people who are the most vocal about one setup over another are also the ones who are the biggest users of the more powerful automation tools offered. As for me - buttons for initiative, skill checks, saves, and some basic attacks are plenty. I’ll apply damage manually. When it comes to spells just verbally tell me the save to attempt and the effects and we’re good. Most of the other players in my games were the same way.
Which is to say that if Roll20 sold SFS scenarios using the Roll20 character sheet, I suspect the majority of players would be willing to say “yeah, OK” and switch to that sheet. The challenge is convincing the very vocal - and very active - simple sheet evangelists to switch. It’s not a demographic that can or should be ignored. These are the people who have had paid accounts for years, and are probably doing most of the ongoing GMing.
If they want to start with sales, now is the time (well, actually, right before PaizoCon online was announced would have been perfect). If all the new GMs are using the Roll20 sheet, the older ones may decide to switch as well.
Venture-Lieutenant, Netherlands—Leiden
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I don't think Roll20 will do anything more with 1e so that's kind of moot. The 2e line is what I want to look at the most. I am starting to look at running SFS, but will almost certainly do so with the CRB and Alien Archives which means official sheet. As a GM, it would work better for me with the SFS line because only the players would have to redo their sheets.
I understand your desire to actually be able to use time-saving resources.
Though please just make it abundantly clear on your signup sheets what sheet you're using. For a not too tech-savvy player, switching sheets can take a lot of time, and it's entirely possible that it has to happen mid-game since there's no warning when importing a sheet that you're importing an incompatible sheet. You just get results on checks that start to look weirder and weirder, leading to players discovering mid-game that for the whole game they may have been taking a +5 or -5 on attack rolls and saving throws or something.
Please be careful with "it's only the players who would have to do some work". It can be a lot of work. At the worst possible time. Meanwhile, with as many entirely custom statblocks as SFS uses for antagonists, I don't know if you even save all that much time as a GM.
If Roll20 really does start providing a lot more resources to users of their official sheet that may be a good reason for people to switch, but avoiding mid-game discovery that you're using the wrong sheet is to be avoided!
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Venture-Captain, Missouri—Columbia
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Since my Google sign-up sheet is specifically for Second Edition with words that point that out along with words that say to use the Roll20 Second Edition character sheet (I will put in a link to my video series on how to use that on the sign-up sheet) AND images of Second Edition along with more words that say critical hit damage is doubled, not rolled for, I think I'm good.
I am really contemplating making a move to incorporate Syrinscape to my tables and will be putting that information on the sign-up sheets as well so players can get their Syrinscape account, which is free, and enjoy the audio effects in the sessions as well.
The Roll20 2e sheet works very good. As a GM and a player, I enjoy its usability. Being able to pull the macro buttons off of it and place them in the macro bar is also very helpful.
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Since my Google sign-up sheet is specifically for Second Edition with words that point that out along with words that say to use the Roll20 Second Edition character sheet (I will put in a link to my video series on how to use that on the sign-up sheet) AND images of Second Edition along with more words that say critical hit damage is doubled, not rolled for, I think I'm good.
I am really contemplating making a move to incorporate Syrinscape to my tables and will be putting that information on the sign-up sheets as well so players can get their Syrinscape account, which is free, and enjoy the audio effects in the sessions as well.
The Roll20 2e sheet works very good. As a GM and a player, I enjoy its usability. Being able to pull the macro buttons off of it and place them in the macro bar is also very helpful.
We meant for starfinder.
As far as organized play goes you're making a good 3/4 of your players redo their sheets in order to save yourself from having to make maybe a quarter of the monsters.