Creature Rule Attach


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Attach rules wrote:
The creature can attempt a special attack against KAC as a standard action. If it succeeds, it deals no damage, but the creature adheres to its target. Once attached, the creature gains a +4 bonus to its AC (from cover) and a +2 circumstance bonus to melee attacks, but it can attack only the creature to which it is attached. An attached creature can’t move on its own (though it moves with its target), take actions that require two hands, or make attacks of opportunity. An attached creature can be removed with a successful Strength check (DC = 10 + 1-1/2 × the creature’s CR) made as a move action, or it can remove itself from its target as a move action.

Is the Creature considered in the same square as the player it is attached to?

I ask to determine the outcome of two separate instances. Can a player target a grenade so it can hurt the attached creature but not the player it is attached to? This can be done if they aren’t sharing a square. And two Space Louse have caustic bodies that damage players that come in contact with them, if it dies while it is attached is the player consider in contact [i read as moving into or being in the same square] with them. And therefore taking the extra damage if it dies while attached?

Sczarni

If the louse is tiny, it would have to share its target's space to attach to them.

If it's small or larger, it remains in its own space.


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Even with the louse in an adjacent square, I'd say it's still pretty clearly in contact at time of death.


I'd probably rule they're in the same square, unless the creature is small size category or larger. But I doubt that's the case here.


Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

I think they are small, if I remember them correctly.


Yes both dredgers and asteroid lice are small.


Well, in that case I would say, no they aren't in the same square. But they are still in contact if attached, so even if they die they remain attached (I wouldn't have them fall off for free since it specifically requires a move action for the creature to even remove itself). So if being in contact with them causes damage, I would still have it cause damage, at least until the creature is forcibly removed (move action, but I'd forgo the check).

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