# What does a 25-foot burst look like?

### Rules Discussion

Pathfinder Maps, Pawns Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

Say I were to cast a fireball with the Widen Spell metamagic feat; what would it look like? Is this correct?

I think you are missing a bit by my count. If I'm counting squares from the corner of the center target point, 25 feet out should be a bit wider. My best way to describe place i'm seeing a gap is I believe where you have 2 square on each cardinal direction, that should instead be 4?

Pathfinder Maps, Pawns Subscriber; Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Starfinder Charter Superscriber

I thought that too at first, but the larger diagrams in the book always have only 2 squares in the cardinal directions.

EDIT: Here is a new diagram showing 5-, 10-, 15-, 20-, 25-, and 30-foot bursts.

I feel like I'm playing devils advocate now and stealing RD's job(sorry!). But can someone explain why those are correct? I don't think it lines up with the description of bursts from the book.

I do agree this matches up with basically all traditional bursts I've ever done and I have a suspicion that the 'first' square you count counts as a diagonal one, which makes the image correct. I certainly didn't imply that from my reading of bursts.

Burst Wording

Asurasan wrote:

I feel like I'm playing devils advocate now and stealing RD's job(sorry!). But can someone explain why those are correct? I don't think it lines up with the description of bursts from the book.

I do agree this matches up with basically all traditional bursts I've ever done and I have a suspicion that the 'first' square you count counts as a diagonal one, which makes the image correct. I certainly didn't imply that from my reading of bursts.

Because other than the 25ft Burst, all of the Bursts in the diagram are literally copied directly from the book. Maybe this will help.

https://imgur.com/43TgAAE

Yeah, it works if you count the first square from the center as a 'diagonal'.

I just mean nothing in the wording actually implies that.