Deity recommendation for a Champion


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My ranger in Extinction Curse just died, and I'm thinking about playing a Champion because the party still needs a frontliner and some extra healing. Anyone have any good recommendations for a deity? Since it's Extinction Curse, they'll have to fit in well to a circus environment, so NG/CG are more likely than LG.


Well Sarenrae is always a good choice. Nice, flexible, and she is into healing enough that you can shush your GM when you using treat wounds to regain your focus for lay on hands.

Heck, you can be whirling dervish, doing sword dances for the crowd.


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In my humble opinion Desna should be a good deity to look at. Promotes both travelling and exploration, companionship and art. Thus you could be anything from an acrobat, a knife thrower or a clown that likes to sing.

Liberty's Edge

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Well, in large part, I'd say it's a matter of what personality you want to play, and I can't advise you on that part.

I will say that making the most of Liberator requires a bit more tactical sense than making the best of Redeemer, so to what degree you prefer tactical movement over more direct damage mitigation (or vice versa) might guide you towards a specific Alignment, which might help pare down your deity options.

Liberty's Edge

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I'll toss in a vote for a liberator of Nocticula, whose purviews of artists and outsiders seem tailor-made for the fringe-dwelling performer life that is the circus.


lemeres wrote:
Sarenrae

Hadn't considered her, but it's always good to get back to basics I suppose. The fact that she has sword dancers in the lore makes it even more appealing.

Ubertron_X wrote:
Deana
Shisumo wrote:
Nocticula

Another two I like but hadn't considered! To be honest, I tend to skin over more artistic gods because I don't normally play artistic characters, but I forgot how perfect one would be for this AP.

Deadmanwalking wrote:
Well, in large part, I'd say it's a matter of what personality you want to play, and I can't advise you on that part.

I'd typically agree, but I'm a bit dry on character ideas right now, which is why I'm starting by looking for an interesting deity and working backwards to figure out what kind of person would worship them.


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Kurgess could be fun. A liberator with Javelins could be very interesting.


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Reedemer of the Lost Prince who is a sad clown in the "Tramp Clown" tradition. If you want to use a staff (his favored weapon) you can tie a bindle to it.

Your sacred purpose is to selflessly cheer up sad people, and to provide a found family for the lonely which I think fits the "circus is a big family of outcasts" pretty well.


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I'm picking just from the CRB:

Calistria favors the whip, you could be a lion tamer.
Cayden Cailean champion could be the guy who runs the popcorn machine and beer tap?
Desna gives you acrobatics, and the starknife is a pretty exotic weapon, good for wowing the crowd.
Erastil, you could be the trick shot showman.. shoot apples off of heads, shoot a bow with your feet, stuff like that.
Gozreh, the animal trainer
Irori could easily be the strongman
Nethys could be the magician, using magic to put on a show
Saranrae, fire eater/dervish
Shelyn, the whole thing would work great! Plus Glaive rocks for champions

Grand Lodge

Abadar because the circus is bringing civilization to the hinterlands, and charging for the privilege.


DougSeay wrote:
Abadar because the circus is bringing civilization to the hinterlands, and charging for the privilege.

Yeah...that's totally a thing they would do, f&!#ing capitalists :P

I agree with most od jdripleys choices, although for different reasons

Calistria is among elvenkind mostly known as goddess of freedom, something which is a very important for a troupe of wandering artists. If you are more into the whole thievery or revenge thing the circus could be your cover
You would be most likely some artist (maybe an exotic dancer) who makes the crowd go wild

Caiden Cailean followers could certainly run the tap but as a god of valor his followers would also be animal tamer, knive thrower or acrobats. Also if you want to encourage downtrodden people to free themselves of their lot and occasionally start a drive-by slave liberation, caiden is your man

Irori encourages his followers to self perfection. You can do that always and everywhere. Your natural skills makes you most suited for an acrobat, a stronman would not be wrong though. Or a show fighter who excites the crowd by using martial prowess.

Desna is the most fitting of all core gods - Uberton already summed that up pretty well

Same goes for Nocticula and Shisumos reasoning

Shelyn is and always will be a goddes of art. So a excellent patron for an artistic troupe of any kind.

If you want a strong man and impress the crowd mostly with feats of strength Kurgess would be a good choice. Especially if it is part of the troupe to let people challange your champion in a friendly bout

Sarenrae followers are often skilled in dance and song. And they also like to travel and patching up and helping people is always needed somewhere.

I can't see Erastil, Gozreh and Nethys as circues artist patrons. I mean, it is certainly possible but those strike me as rather unlikely

Well, maybe Erastil if you focus on the family aspect, a circus troupe is often some kind of patchwork family

If you want something more exotic *draws out gods and magic*

Hathor is also a family goddess

Isis combines the family aspect with the healing aspect

Bastet encourages learning of secrets and recelry, certainly two things that (can) align with circus life

If you are the ringmaster horus suits well as his decrees are to protect people over whom you have authority and create harmony within your community

Count Ranalc of the eldest would be an interesting choice if the circus is just your side buisiness

Besides him, eldest as well as elven or dwarven gods make not especially good champion patrons, especially not concidering the circus aspect

But we got a few empyriel lords (and ladies)

Arshea wants to inspire passion and people to abandon what holds them back from it

The Black Butterfly, a minion of Desna. A student of stars who wants to randomly do good seems certainly like a valid choice

Irez makes for an excellent fortune teller

Pulura has a good affinity for travelers

If your character comes from the far east consider following deities:

Kofusachi likes his followers to indulge themselves and help local businesses (and a circus in town certainly can help) not sure about the travelling aspect though

Lady Jingxi is an artist. Poets are rare among circus folk but it could sure worek

Qi Zhong might not be a typical circus follower but probably appreciated among the troupe for his healing - and you can teach healing to all on the travvels who are willing to listen

Sun Wukong - Live life freely, drink, play pranks; thats certain to make a good circus follower

Well, thats certainly a lot, have fun :P

Lantern Lodge

Seisho wrote:
Sun Wukong - Live life freely, drink, play pranks; thats certain to make a good circus follower

Tailed Goblin Liberator of Sun Wukong/Acrobat!


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Isn't one of the adventure backgrounds about laying low for a bit? You could be a redeemer Champion of the Sucubus Demon Queen, Nocticula, who is himself seeking redemption for a past crime.

A Jean Valjean of sorts.


Shelyn's into art, but I don't think that's necessarily a fit for a circus troupe. There's a decided commercialism about circuses, I'd consider them more entertainment than art. That being said, I'll argue against myself by pointing out that circus acts like Circle du Soleil in real life would definitely count as art.

I have a Redeemer of Shelyn that I love playing. Mechanically, the skills work well. So I don't think it's a bad idea. I just want to point out that I don't think it's a perfect fit for a circus troupe.

I think Desna actually fits better than Shelyn.


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Ravingdork wrote:

Isn't one of the adventure backgrounds about laying low for a bit? You could be a redeemer Champion of the Sucubus Demon Queen, Nocticula, who is himself seeking redemption for a past crime.

A Jean Valjean of sorts.

Funny enough, Nocticula doesn't allow for NG followers, so no redeemers for the Redeemer Queen.

I've narrowed it down to two characters though, a half-orc liberator of Nocticula (who would multiclass into Demonic Sorcerer) and a halfling redeemer of Sarenrae. The former wielding a meteor hammer, the latter a shield and scimitar.


One of my players just made a Cayden Cailean worshiping liberator who is a member of a divine order of bartenders. They have a half-bar half-archive guild hall in Absalom where they collect rare drink mixing recipes and ingredients from all across the world.


Henro wrote:
One of my players just made a Cayden Cailean worshiping liberator who is a member of a divine order of bartenders. They have a half-bar half-archive guild hall in Absalom where they collect rare drink mixing recipes and ingredients from all across the world.

I misread your comment. Now my mind is going off on a tangent imagining a half orc bartender running a business that is that is half bar and half Tinder.

It would be a interdenominational temple to Cayden Cailean and Calistria.


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Salamileg wrote:
Ravingdork wrote:

Isn't one of the adventure backgrounds about laying low for a bit? You could be a redeemer Champion of the Sucubus Demon Queen, Nocticula, who is himself seeking redemption for a past crime.

A Jean Valjean of sorts.

Funny enough, Nocticula doesn't allow for NG followers, so no redeemers for the Redeemer Queen.

Sorry, I meant to say Liberator.

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