Tips for smoother running of 'fake' quest packs for PFS2


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I'm very happy with the increased quest availability in PFS2 to help with places that can't run long scenarios. However, I don't run in one of those places. I run in a place that normal scenarios fit best, but my players still want the quests.

I tried running the first four in one slot last month. It worked, but was disappointing in a number of ways and I'm wondering if people have found approaches that help with any of the following aspects.

1) Increased paperwork load -- four sets of sign-in sheets, four sets of chronicles. Didn't require people to play all four, (some couldn't as they had already played 1-2 of the non-repeatables elsewhere), didn't require people to play all of the ones that they did play on the same character. But the extra inter-quest paperwork really breaks up the session. The chronicles definitely felt like they took a lot of time to deal with. If the campaign leadership could come up with & authorize some shorthand notation that could be used to skip filling out the bottom (event,id,signature,date, number) and just reference the first in the set, that might help, somewhat -- but we're still dealing with all the others boxes and downtime. I didn't mind the four-sets of reporting, that's work done away from the table.

2) Completely disjoint story -- expected, but definitely affected the flow of the session. Perhaps as more quests come out we'll have some more natural 'run these four as an artificial quest pack' all in same region, or same metaplot, or same VC giving the mission, etc.

When I ran quests 1-4, I did 1,4,3,2 (ie repeatables first, so people who had done the non-repeatables, could leave early. order of 2,3 was determined by # of people who had run each (one had run 2 & 3, another one had run 2), again maximizing the convenience for those who could leave early. I was lucky in that I didn't have a split of one had run 2 and one had run 3, so now one had a gap to worry about in the session schedule.


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I agree that the quests bring unrelated is a surprise to people who expect them to be coherent.

As to the Chronicle speed...

I always prefill all the boilerplate stuff, especially the line at the bottom of the chronicle, before coming to the table. In the quests there is no secondary objective which might result in different Rep gained, so there's even less at-table filling needed. The only thing you have to fill at the table for quests is their slotted faction name (use abbreviations), earned income and level-appropriate treasure-bundle gold.

I ran the first 4 quests in the same way as you did for a table of 7 players with one player only doing the 2 repeatables, one using a different char for one quest etc, and with the prefilled chronicles it took maybe 10-15 seconds total per player including up to 4 income rolls, which is only marginally more than the time I would need to fill chronicles for a normal scenario.

(Also speeds things up tremendously if you know the relevant parts of the income tables well enough that you can do it from memory and don't have to look them up.)

5/5 Venture-Agent, California—San Francisco Bay Area North & East aka Pirate Rob

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This doesn't quite address your issues but may be of help for future planning for you and others...

I scheduled them on a longer weekend slot with rotating GMs as a way to help onboard new GMs with a smaller commitment than a full scenario.

The first time a set of 4 took almost 6 hours, the second time it took about 5.

So each table has 4 GMs (one for each quest) and up to 3 more players.

Each GM gms their 1 quest and then hands off to the next GM. We coordinated who was GMing what ahead of time.

Was super successful, the second time we did it we had enough interest for 2 tables.

I got several people to dip their toes into GMing for the first time etc.

Especially since most of the other people at your table were GMing it felt super reasonable to ask them for help as part of an awesome collaborative process.

(I told Warhorn we had 4 1 slot tables, and then used an extra account to block the first player slot)

Scarab Sages 5/5 5/5 Venture-Lieutenant, Australia—NSW—Sydney aka sanwah68

I have created a signup sheet specifically for running multiple quests. Can send it to you, just message me...

Dark Archive 4/5 Regional Venture-Coordinator, Upper Midwest aka Silbeg

Sandra Wilkinson wrote:
I have created a signup sheet specifically for running multiple quests. Can send it to you, just message me...

Suggestion: post it on PFSprep.com

Then anyone can grab it!

Scarab Sages 5/5 5/5 Venture-Lieutenant, Australia—NSW—Sydney aka sanwah68

Will work out how to do that :) It is not as pretty as other sheets, basically built in excel, but if others would find it useful, happy to share.

I and another GM ran quests at a recent Con and found exactly the same issues as the OP. Though I knew Chronicles were going to be a pain, like others on this thread, prefilled what I could. We then collaborated on building a sign up sheet

5/5 Venture-Agent, California—San Francisco Bay Area North & East aka Pirate Rob

Nothing wrong with a basic, functional sheet.

Scarab Sages 5/5 5/5 Venture-Lieutenant, Australia—NSW—Sydney aka sanwah68

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I have put it up on GM Prep here .

Happy for any feedback

Silver Crusade 4/5 Venture-Captain, Pennsylvania—Pittsburgh aka Terminalmancer

@Sandra: it took me a minute to figure the headings out, but once I got those, it seemed pretty easy to use. We're running our own makeshift quest pack in the coming weeks and I'll probably be trying out your reporting sheet.

Scarab Sages 5/5 5/5 Venture-Lieutenant, Australia—NSW—Sydney aka sanwah68

@Alex I would love to know how that goes. I haven't actually used it yet.

Is there some way to make the headings clearer?

Silver Crusade 4/5 Venture-Captain, Pennsylvania—Pittsburgh aka Terminalmancer

Maybe make sure the person reading them is getting adequate sleep?

I'll let you know how it goes. We've got a few weeks before our quests actually happen, so you could very well try them out first.

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Sandra Wilkinson wrote:

I have put it up on GM Prep here .

Happy for any feedback

I used this recently. The one thing we saw was that there is no place to put your faction. Otherwise it worked well.

Scarab Sages 5/5 5/5 Venture-Lieutenant, Australia—NSW—Sydney aka sanwah68

Benjamin Debrick wrote:
Sandra Wilkinson wrote:

I have put it up on GM Prep here .

Happy for any feedback

I used this recently. The one thing we saw was that there is no place to put your faction. Otherwise it worked well.

So, in general, was there a space that was underutilised on the sheet? Happy to put in factions, but not to the determent of other info.

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