Do you think you could use Siccatite in a cooler chest for a permanent fridge / freezer?


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion

Scarab Sages

I recently stumbled across the cooler chest and its have an item like ice inside to keep things from decaying as fast as normal. I vaguely recall a nevermelting ice from an old dnd based pc game (think it was icewind dale) but the closest I can see in pathfinder is Siccatite - cold. I'd prefer something not as rare/expensive but do you think you could stick a lump of this in a cooler chest to create a permanent fridge/frezer for travel in a hot desert?

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Senko wrote:
I recently stumbled across the cooler chest and its have an item like ice inside to keep things from decaying as fast as normal. I vaguely recall a nevermelting ice from an old dnd based pc game (think it was icewind dale) but the closest I can see in pathfinder is Siccatite - cold. I'd prefer something not as rare/expensive but do you think you could stick a lump of this in a cooler chest to create a permanent fridge/frezer for travel in a hot desert?

Yeah seems pretty reasonable to me. You're in danger of taking that 1 cold damage every time you grab an ice cold beer from the cooler though!


Senko wrote:
I vaguely recall a nevermelting ice from an old dnd based pc game (think it was icewind dale)

It's been a while since I played IWD1 so I can't remember. There is the frost-ale mug in PS:T, though, which kept anything in it at freezing temperatures.


Without a means of turning the cold down or off you're limited to a freezer. A constant but lesser amount of chill will sometimes be enough to freeze, sometimes not and very few things you'd keep in a fridge like repeated freeze/thaw cycles.

Scarab Sages

True but a freezer sort of works. You could perhaps modify it with insulation around the siccarite to regulate the cold somewhat. Of course freezing things with a few exceptions is generally better for long term storage than a fridge. Even if your waiting awhile for the beer to thaw.


Senko wrote:
True but a freezer sort of works. You could perhaps modify it with insulation around the siccarite to regulate the cold somewhat. Of course freezing things with a few exceptions is generally better for long term storage than a fridge. Even if your waiting awhile for the beer to thaw.

If you are open to non-first party sources there are a few more options. Back in a dragon magazine from the 3.5 era there was an alchemical item called an ice crystal that, when placed in a liquid, turned as cold as ice, basically an eternal ice cube. It was extremely cheap, like one silver piece each. If you are not willing to have small quartz crystals in all of your liquid items, but are willing to go third party, there is a first level druid spell called constant heat that does fire damage based on contact, but also heats up an area the specific effect. Using the Energy substitution meta-magic would increase the level to two but could change it to cold from fire and have radiating cold effects. You could probably pay a druid about of sixty gold to get it done. It’s a second level wizard spell, so that would require one-hundred-fifty or so. Third option is something even further far afield, but a mongoose publishing book for 3.5, the Quintessential Elf. It lists a non-magical wood that items can be made out of that increase lifespan. I can’t remember the price, but I put it similar to the wizard price on a guess.

Last but not least, if spoilage is a concern, is having a magic item made that casts purify food and water once a day. Probably two hundred gold.


You might be able to, but at a minimum listed cost of 1000GP, why bother when you can use a Crate of Preservation for indefinite storage and ability to keep things hot?


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moonunitiv wrote:
Senko wrote:
I recently stumbled across the cooler chest and its have an item like ice inside to keep things from decaying as fast as normal. I vaguely recall a nevermelting ice from an old dnd based pc game (think it was icewind dale) but the closest I can see in pathfinder is Siccatite - cold. I'd prefer something not as rare/expensive but do you think you could stick a lump of this in a cooler chest to create a permanent fridge/frezer for travel in a hot desert?
Yeah seems pretty reasonable to me. You're in danger of taking that 1 cold damage every time you grab an ice cold beer from the cooler though!

That could be a feature rather than a bug if you are a divine caster who wants to keep 1st level commoners out of your fridge. Be sure that you have the Virtue cantrip prepared. Cast it before you reach into the chest and be sure to be out of it before you take a 2nd hp of damage; repeat as necessary.

Scarab Sages

Ah I never saw that crate of preservation because I never got the villain codex. I thought it was a bunch of villain NPC's. I may need to take another look at the codex's if they have such things in them.

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