half hp would work for me, though I DID like my die roll... That would mean Maelchar would get 6hp, which is fine.
Variel - Take your time with the kiddies.. they are who is important.
Oriana - Maelchar will continue to call you Ori, no matter what the others choose to do. Just so you know.
Mael, no worries. As her big brother, Maelchar can call her by his chosen pet name and Oriana would not begrudge him. :)
Getting the kids to bed so will update both campaigns once their asleep.
FYI, your official level up will be in the morning after you sleep as there is one last thing to happen first.
As for hp I know most of you have rolled but I go with half hd +1 as base hp. Thus a cleric with 12 con would get 4+1+1.
So HP for 1d12 is 6 than?
Also, where do things like "favored class" come in?
In other words, if I'm playing my favorite class and I elect to take a +1 to HP instead of a +1 to Skill Points that means I'd get:
6 + Con Modifier + 1 via favorite class + 1 extra for extra stats?
Also, what's the story with that? As it stands, that really nerfs the HP of higher HP classes.
By 5th the difference is 5th Wizard 22 and a 5th level Barbarian is only 30.
If we went with Max a wizard could have 30 at 5th (only being off by 8 points); whereas a barbarian could have 60 and off by 30 points. On 10th the level would be wizard 42 and barbarian is only 75. Max is 60 vs. 120. That's a pretty steep discrepancy.
If that's how you're doing the game, that's your call; but as it is, is it possible to re-think and re-adjust our stats?
While I'm at it; how does this work for the Winter Game?
I don't know if that's the same in that game, too; but I'd like to know what's up there, too.
Thanks!
I elected and was adding a +1 to hp for favoured class in the background (in this game). It would be good if this is confirmed as okay to do. :)
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It realy doesn't nerf anyone. We're getting average (actually, it's better than average considering average on a D12 is 6.5 not 7. This method ony means less HP if you roll better than average and prevents you from rolling 1's for three levels, which is just as likely as rolling max HP
Barbarian gets 7+con where wizard gets 4+con, difference of 3 per level.
You get HP for toughness or favored cass if you take it.
Ok. Leveled up.
And I'll go to the gameplay thread and see if I can get the spellcraft rolls for the morningstar and cloak.
I think Variel said there was one more thing that needed to happen in game before we could level up - jumped the gun there a little Pakak.
Yeah, I know, I did the math, too ;)
It is what it is, I guess, but I am a melee fighter and HP is pretty important, so it makes me nervous about HP in the long run...
Oh well, we'll see what happens I guess.
Just an advanced heads up. We fiInally have a date on my MIL's memorial service. It will be this coming Friday, so will be traveling Thurs and Sunday, and probably quite busy on Friday and Saturday, so my posting next weekend will be dicey at best. I will post a reminder of this just before we leave for the drive up.
I think Variel said there was one more thing that needed to happen in game before we could level up - jumped the gun there a little Pakak.
@##@.
I misread then
FYI, your official level up will be in the morning after you sleep as there is one last thing to happen first.
Just the confirmation for you Pakak, but yeah, I guess you misread, we WERE all talking about leveling after all, but I don't think Variel will hold it against you. Hopefully, he'll let your rolls stand, or if you reroll, maybe you'll make them both which would be cool. I wouldn't stress over it all though, I'm sure it's all good.
I am itching to level, myself... sitting here with the OGC opened to the oracle page so I can start when he gives the go-ahead.
Would all of you be so kind as to post what the changes are to your character as of reaching 2nd level. That way I can just look at a small list instead of going through the entire character again.
Ryu as a Arabian you would have 8 go not counting favored class bonus class. Hope that helps.
Also Zeriax, where is trap finding coming from? I see an urban ranger gets that at third level. What am I missing?
Oriana, did you just change your avatar?
Only real changes to Maelchar are that he gains a new 0 lvl spell (enhanced diplomacy) and a new 1st lvl spell (LEad Blades), hp, bab (and everything associated with bab), some skills (diplo, disable, know history, intimidate and perception), and a hero point, I assume...
Pakak's biggest changes are his spells and skills.
He has all official knowledge skills now except nobles. I bought his spellcraft up one point as well
Spells, well... thanks to the spellbook he's learned Detect Secret Doors, Shield, and Shocking Grasp. In addition, for his level gain, he got two more spells. I went with Alarm and Identify (Yeah, I figure I WILL get that #$#$ing cloak figured out next time we have time that way)
I did change my avatar but also updated my sheet.
Special: Cunning Initiative (+3 (WIS) to Init), Detect Alignment, Track (+1 to Survival to track).
Oriana gained one orison: Detect Poison, and one first level spell: Magic Weapon.
Fort and Will both went up by +1. As did bab (and all associated with it.)
6 New skills taken: Bluff, Climb, Intimidate, Know. Nature, Spellcraft and Swim.
HP increased by 4 +1 + 2(CON)+1(for favoured class)=8.
I see, from the others, that hero point went up by 1 (which I haven't included) but will now.
Added the +1 Morningstar and removed ordinary Morningstar.
Now going back to bed as it is early here and I have a long drive and that engagement party later on.
I forgot to mention Maelchar also gained +1 to will saves too.
Ryu as a Arabian you would have 8 go not counting favored class bonus class. Hope that helps.
Why GM - I'm from Minkai, not Arabia ;)
Well, on second level I'm upping Barbarian, but I don't know what Rage Power to take.
I'm thinking of either Superstition, or possibly Auspicious Mark; but I'm not decided. Anyone have any suggestions?
Not that I am any great expert on Barbs and rage powers, but 'Auspicious Mark' sounds better to me. I hope the others who've had experience playing barbarians can chime in and advise you.
Although, with Ryu's proclivity to go right up in the face of a spellcaster *winks*, 'Superstition' may come in useful.
Yeah - they're both pretty handy. But Auspicious Mark does function as a "micro hero point" power, which can be pretty sweet in certain situations.
That said, lil' Angel, I'll keep it under advisement for sure :)
Thanks for the advice!
Once leveling up is completed let me know but don't rush as I don't want anyone to have second thoughts.
Ryu as for the rage powers here is my take on them.
Superstition makes it difficult for people to heal you in combat while you are raging. It effectively forces you to end your rage and the con bonus to hp to get proper healing. It does lead into Witch Hunter though which is a nice power.
Auspicious Mark is nice but you only have 7 rounds total. that is not much and using the Mark takes up 2 of those.
Not trying to talk you out of either just giving you my take on them as a DM.
GM - the thing is; I'm just pretty confused in general. I've never played a barbarian before; so this is all new to me, and I don't now much about the rage powers in general.
I'm able to do all the rest of what I need to via leveling; is there a way I can hold off on the rage power for a bit until I make a decision for a bit? I can do everything else in the meantime, if possible. Please let me know what you think about that solution.
Ry, I liked Celestial Totem lesser - but all of those powers only function while I'm raging; so brawler is good, but I can only use it while raging.
Celestial Totem is probably the way I'm going mainly because if we're all fighting and someone heals me, I'll need what I can get in a fight.
Powerful Blow is good; but it's only once per rage. I'm not sure - but if I divide rage - can I use it once in a fight - than later on during another "rage" fight?
Finally - what people think about "Scent"?
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Scent: only getting scent while Ragins isn't that fantastic. Good for fighting invisivle foes so you can locate them which is pretty tough.
Var, if he's using the COntrolled Rage, he doesn't necessarily get an HP boost.
Next level, I can get Mercy, and pick the one that removed Fatigue, so you can drop rage, and get a Lay on Hands for some Healing and curing fatiegue so you can use your rage powers again.
Superstition leads to Witch-Hunter which seems to fit for Ryu, and leads to Spell-Sunder which is pretty sweet especially with Strength Surge. Once per Rage is something to consider, but i can help with that.
You only get one totem line, so i'd suggest taking a look at the totems and see if Celestial is the one you want
The once/Rage abilities you get a lot more use out of than Nova abilities that you only get a couple times per day from other classes
Witch hunter does seem cool in the long run; but Superstition doesn't seem all that good.
Man this is tricky - is it possible to get some more time to decide on things?
For now, no matter what happens I won't use a "Rage Power" until I decide anyway if that's okay?
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it really only makes sense if you do something like drop your FC bonus into superstition, at which point you have +2+Lv/4+Lv/3 vs magic. at Lv4 that's a +4, at Lv9 that's a +7, at 12 that's a +9, and at Lv 20 it's a +13.
So you have to Drop Rage and take a LoH to receive healing and loose fatigue, but that's fine, and you get a +13 to all saves versus spells on top of all your other abilities. that becomes a decent trade
Correct on the controlled rage not necessarily adding hp. With a paladin able to remove fatigue it does help, but it forces the paladin to use his round to heal instead of other things. Since Garith brought it up it sounds like he is ok with it, just wanted to throw that out there. Of those listed superstition for witch hunter or celestial totem sound like the best choices to me.
We can continue on without you selecting a rage power for now but I would like you to have a decision made in the next three days.
Update coming later then tonight.
Cool - I will indeed have my decision up soon; hopefully sooner than three days, but I will hurry.
I'm looking at the Celestial Totem - but just to be clear; no one is in favor of Auspicious Mark?
I know it burns two rounds of rage, but it's a ret-con action. So if I miss a target by 1 or 2 points and it's close to going down, that's when to use it, to convert it.
Okay, that's pretty much it - I'll have something up soon.
GM - I'm guessing you'll have the update for all the games tonight as well?
Okay, that's pretty much it; see you guys soon!
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Note for Zeriax: Oriana recovered 7 intact arrows. Since she fired 4 in recent combat against the three initial mongrelmen, she will keep 4 and give 3 arrows to you to replace some of which you lost during combat.
Thank you Oriana, adding 3 arrows back for a total of 17.
I do have a question DM Variel: Would it make sense for Zeriax to search for arrows also, or Oriana has sweeped all of the ones fired by me and her?
I took most of what I saw for missed arrow and simply gave a 1d8 roll to see how many unbroken arrows there were. No sense having you look again Zeriax.
Ok, cool.
Zeriax, if you run out of the arrows (or are running low), Oriana will give you some of hers, since her bow is not her primary weapon.
Maelchar, my thoughts are with you and your husband during this time. Safe trip to the memorial and may the service be a wonderful tribute to her life. Take care, please.
Maelchar, I sincerely hope that you find comfort in each other's company, getting through such a painful period.
I was having a smoke and found myself thinking about what you are probably going through, so just wanted to let you know my thoughts are with you and your family.
thank you both!
Migraine that won't go away and engagement party to attend to this afternoon back in my home town. I may not be able to post much of anything until tomorrow. Thanks.
I asked a question about the CLW potions yesterday, but received no answer. So I'm going to assume each of us are carrying one of the CLW potions we have in stock. Oriana is injured too and only has 2 spells left, Mael has more. Perhaps drinking a potion is the way to go, Garith...I'd like to conserve spells, if we can.
Maybe the dungeon crawl is over and the rest is all logic puzzles from here on out?
*cackles manically*
Zeriax is able to use the scale to cure anyone, and not only himself, correct?
Also, it is the same as a CMW at level 19 if I remember correctly?
Zeriax is down to 12 arrows, will be posting his search for recoverable ones in gameplay :/
Correct, Zeriax can use the scale to heal someone for 2d8+10 as cure mod caps out at a +10.
I'm not saying Zeriax shouldn't have healed Garith (who I noticed was down to 7 hp). Just trying to determine how much healing we have remaining (to use) as we move through the day. (btw Garith can you update your status bar to show full hp please, so we don't get confused on how many hp you have. Thanks.)
I asked that question because in the rp Variel put up, their palms were cut and then healed up after the power was transferred and was wondering if that was considered a healing, per se, or just story flavour.
It was just for story flavor. You still have the normal allotment of uses for the day.
Thanks for clarifying, Var.
Still 2 more heals to go folks - all is good :D
"All is good" just wait till you get into the next room. You'll wish you had a couple more scales.
Ok so I like being the evil threatening GM trying to make everyone worried. In real life I am a nice guy, tiefling's honor.
*Meditates with typical monk coolness* to keep the GM threats away :D