Wall Of Stone has no duration?


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Is it intended that Wall Of Stone has no duration, so presumably once created the wall is mundane and can't be dispelled?


hyphz wrote:

Is it intended that Wall Of Stone has no duration, so presumably once created the wall is mundane and can't be dispelled?

Why wouldn't you be able to dispel it? Can you not dispel a Continual Flame?


it was such in 3/3.5 D&D. 5e made it concentration which is something new (and something they did to a lot of their spells severely nerfing casters) but in prior versions it has always been permanent once cast.

Although in D&D1.0 and AD&D it could be dispelled.


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mrspaghetti wrote:
hyphz wrote:

Is it intended that Wall Of Stone has no duration, so presumably once created the wall is mundane and can't be dispelled?

Why wouldn't you be able to dispel it? Can you not dispel a Continual Flame?

Wall of Stone and Continual Flame have two different durations that interact in different ways.

Wall of Stone has no duration, so it's an instant spell, the magic is in raising and shaping the stone, but the stone is mundane after that and has to be dealt with like a normal wall of rock.

Continual Flame has a duration of unlimited, which means the spell is still continuing to feed the flame forever. If that magical fuel source is removed the flame will go out just like any fire without fuel.


Continual Flame is a magic effect that needs magic to sustain it, so I think that analogy fails vs. a spell that creates matter (which may or may not need sustaining).

Having used 1.0 Wall of Stone for nasty effects via auto-dispelling them later, I can attest that having the Wall of Stone be an instant effect that makes a non-magical wall is the better way to go.

Also, in some D&D lore, Wall of Stone has been used to help construct permanent structures, even fortifications. If a Dispel or Anti-Magic could collapse those, they wouldn't be sound enough to have bothered in the first place. (And yes, I thought about castles that intentionally had Wall of Stones to be breachable so whatever foul stuff that was behind it would spill out.)

(Hmm...what would happen to a 1.0/permanent Wall of Stone in Anti-Magic?)

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