Bane on Dragon Bane Dancing +5 Weapon

[amberlink]

If I attack a Dragon, am I at +5 or +7? Bane can obviously exceed the +5, but the weapons total enhancement is already +10, does this mean that only the 2d6 from bane would work and not the +2 enhancement? In addition, does a +1 Bane weapon bypass certain DRs normally requiring 3?

[MrCharisma]

It works as a +7 Dancing weapon, and gives 2d6 extra damage (which is not multiplied on a crit) against dragons.

The total bonus is +5 (enhancement) +1 (bane) +4 (dancing) = 10, so it's within the +10 limit.

Just because it's giving you higher bonuses doesn't mean it costs more bonuses.

[zza ni]

as i see it the max +10 on weapons is to limit the total + of buying\crafting a weapon.
since bane is considered a +1 enhancement. even if it give a higher bonus against specific things that doesn't change the weapon buying\crafting cost so it's all good.

[MrCharisma]

The same would be true of a Furious Weapon, but I just realised I don't know if Bane stacks with Furious.

Having just read them it looks like they should, but does anyone have anything to quote?

[amberlink]

zza ni wrote:

as i see it the max +10 on weapons is to limit the total + of buying\crafting a weapon.

since bane is considered a +1 enhancement. even if it give a higher bonus against specific things that doesn't change the weapon buying\crafting cost so it's all good.

Well from the FAQ: https://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm#v5748eaic9qd9

You can't for example, add bane to an already +10 weapon through Inquisitor, so it's not just buying/crafting

The line about "The +10 bonus-equivalent limitation is a hard cap for all weapons; you can't exceed that even with class abilities or other unusual abilities."
is where the issue came up, as I was told by more than one person, that that line would apply to Bane (and Furious) and would limit the bonus that Bane and/or Furious would grant based on how high of a total + the weapon had

[Kifaru]

MrCharisma wrote:

The same would be true of a Furious Weapon, but I just realised I don't know if Bane stacks with Furious.

Having just read them it looks like they should, but does anyone have anything to quote?

In my experience is has been generally accepted that they stack. But I've never seen an official ruling. Actually, I've never met anybody who didn't think they stacked. This is the first time the idea was ever presented to me.

[MrCharisma]

Kifaru wrote:

MrCharisma wrote:

The same would be true of a Furious Weapon, but I just realised I don't know if Bane stacks with Furious.

Having just read them it looks like they should, but does anyone have anything to quote?

In my experience is has been generally accepted that they stack. But I've never seen an official ruling. Actually, I've never met anybody who didn't think they stacked. This is the first time the idea was ever presented to me.

Eh, just thought I'd check.