Do any gods have saints?


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If so, what would they be like stat-wise? I assume you have to be dead to be a saint, like in real life and I was thinking they might be unique outsiders, similar to heralds but less powerful (maybe CR 5-10 or so).

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There are a group of outsiders known as divine servitors that function as this purpose. In PF1, they're all CR4 compared to the Herald's CR15. You can find them in Chapter 4 of Inner Sea Gods. Some examples:

Abadar: Orsheval, a celestial horse thingy
Erastil: Stag Archon, a anthropomorphic deer
Pharasma: Ahmuuth Psychopomp, a lady with floating headstone shields
Zon-Kuthon: Lampadarius Kyton, Two-Face, but shadowstuff instead of chemical burns

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Umm, divine servitors are bit different thing from saints.

That said, I'm pretty sure there have been mention of saints, just none that are particularly important to any of faiths I think?


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Inner Sea Gods wrote:
[Milani] was a saint serving Aroden for thousands of years
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The church [of Iomedae] is known for its many saints, all of them dead mortals granted power and sometimes a new form in the afterlife. In many cases, these saints are the patrons of particular churches or military orders, and may only be known to locals or religious scholars.
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[Infernal Dukes are sometimes treated as] honored as saintlike patron beings among Asmodeus’s faithful.

(It's also used to mean "very Good person" and )


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All gods have a number of unique beings that serve them, some of them are listed in Inner Sea Gods. Their stats are not given though. They include not only outsiders, but also other beings inhabiting Outer Planes, like celestial creatures, half-celestials, or even some mortals or former mortals who plane-shifted and were accepted in the deity's domain.


And there's Saint Cuthbert and the mace that bears their name.


Perpdepog wrote:
And there's Saint Cuthbert and the mace that bears their name.

What god was Cuthbert a saint of in Pathfinder? My guess is Iomedae.

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Yqatuba wrote:
Perpdepog wrote:
And there's Saint Cuthbert and the mace that bears their name.
What god was Cuthbert a saint of in Pathfinder? My guess is Iomedae.

Of Christian God :P Saint Cuthbert is real life historical figure


There's no reason to think that Pathfinder's Saint Cuthbert god was ever active on Golarion - the mace is an artifact that can (and does) teleport across the whole multiverse wherever is needed, so the original Saint Cuthbert may be from anywhere really.


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CorvusMask wrote:
Yqatuba wrote:
Perpdepog wrote:
And there's Saint Cuthbert and the mace that bears their name.
What god was Cuthbert a saint of in Pathfinder? My guess is Iomedae.
Of Christian God :P Saint Cuthbert is real life historical figure

I meant in the Pathfinder multiverse. Although I suppose the Christian God could exist there as well (check out this old thread I made https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v7xg?Are-there-any-gods-like-this#1 specifically Zhangar's idea about what the Abrahamic God could be.


Yqatuba wrote:
CorvusMask wrote:
Yqatuba wrote:
Perpdepog wrote:
And there's Saint Cuthbert and the mace that bears their name.
What god was Cuthbert a saint of in Pathfinder? My guess is Iomedae.
Of Christian God :P Saint Cuthbert is real life historical figure
I meant in the Pathfinder multiverse. Although I suppose the Christian God could exist there as well (check out this old thread I made https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2v7xg?Are-there-any-gods-like-this#1 specifically Zhangar's idea about what the Abrahamic God could be.

Linkified for your convenience.

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Any 20th level cleric can cast miracle. Would that make all of them candidates for sainthood?


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DougSeay wrote:
Any 20th level cleric can cast miracle. Would that make all of them candidates for sainthood?

I'd say yes. Characters like that are already legends, will be remembered for generations, and many will have no doubts that they've remained powerful servants of their deity even after death.


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The guide to Korvosa has Saint Alika if that counts. If I am not mistaken she is Pharasmin.

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"Saint" isn't a rules-mechanic term in Pathfinder, but certainly there are worshipers of the gods who are significant historical figures or important active members of the church. In some cases, we have used the word "saint" to their name. Saint Alika is a good example, as is Saint Ilnea.

It's not a term we use often though, in part because it's got some real-world implications, but mostly because we just don't use it often at all, and when we do, we generally just treat it as a flavorful title that doesn't really mean much more than "a famous good hero/heroine of faith".

If you're looking for a more significant word to append to a person to signify they are a very powerful or famous or notworthy servant of a deity, I'd suggest using the word "hierophant," since that's what we use for mythic divine characters and it doesn't look weird when you put it in front of an evil NPC's name.


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Yqatuba wrote:
Perpdepog wrote:
And there's Saint Cuthbert and the mace that bears their name.
What god was Cuthbert a saint of in Pathfinder? My guess is Iomedae.

In regards to Tabletop gaming,Cuthbert is a DnD God, not a Pathfinder God. Lawful Neutral, but doesn't except Lawful Evil worshipers.


Also, in addition to Milani, Aroden’s church had quite a few Saints; they were called “Founders” (the term for “Saint” in that religion) and much mention of them can be found in Council of Thieves (though few explicit details). At least if this all hasn’t been retconned!


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Iomedae's Church has Saint Lymirin, patron saint of first blood. She wrote a book, The Lymirin Discourses and has a monastery near Caliphas that fell on some hard times (Carrion Crown 5, I think).

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