Bellflower Tiller


Age of Ashes


Is this an archetype that is found in Age of Ashes? I would like to MC into this archetype I was just wondering if anyone knew if this is an archetype that would be found in this AP.


That is correct - it is in chapter 3.

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Atalius wrote:
Is this an archetype that is found in Age of Ashes? I would like to MC into this archetype I was just wondering if anyone knew if this is an archetype that would be found in this AP.

Yes, it is in Tomorrow Must Burn, the 3rd book in the path. It is on page 75 of the book. The requirement is Chr 14, Expert in Stealth and Survival, and member of the Bellflower Network.


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Samurai wrote:
Atalius wrote:
Is this an archetype that is found in Age of Ashes? I would like to MC into this archetype I was just wondering if anyone knew if this is an archetype that would be found in this AP.
Yes, it is in Tomorrow Must Burn, the 3rd book in the path. It is on page 75 of the book. The requirement is Chr 14, Expert in Stealth and Survival, and member of the Bellflower Network.

It should also be noted this dedication is a level 6 feat rather than the level 2 for the multiclass dedications .

Personally, I'd like to take this on my Age of Ashes Emancipated Halfling Thief, but between the Charisma requirement, the fact that I already 'dipped' into cleric (sadly, the drunkard was the only real anti-slavery option), and the fact that Rogue feats start looking really good at levels 6 and higher, I don't think it is going to happen.

It doesn't help that the adventure (that I will be playing) that offers it is level 9, which means I'll be in double digit levels before I can take any (without massive retraining at least), which really increases the 'opportunity cost' of this archetype.

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Taja the Barbarian wrote:
Samurai wrote:
Atalius wrote:
Is this an archetype that is found in Age of Ashes? I would like to MC into this archetype I was just wondering if anyone knew if this is an archetype that would be found in this AP.
Yes, it is in Tomorrow Must Burn, the 3rd book in the path. It is on page 75 of the book. The requirement is Chr 14, Expert in Stealth and Survival, and member of the Bellflower Network.

It should also be noted this dedication is a level 6 feat rather than the level 2 for the multiclass dedications .

Personally, I'd like to take this on my Age of Ashes Emancipated Halfling Thief, but between the Charisma requirement, the fact that I already 'dipped' into cleric (sadly, the drunkard was the only real anti-slavery option), and the fact that Rogue feats start looking really good at levels 6 and higher, I don't think it is going to happen.

It doesn't help that the adventure (that I will be playing) that offers it is level 9, which means I'll be in double digit levels before I can take any (without massive retraining at least), which really increases the 'opportunity cost' of this archetype.

Well, all the dedication gives you is +5 foot move speed, and you can give up to 6 other people a +5' speed for overland travel only if they stay within 60' of the tiller.

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Samurai wrote:
Taja the Barbarian wrote:
Samurai wrote:
Atalius wrote:
Is this an archetype that is found in Age of Ashes? I would like to MC into this archetype I was just wondering if anyone knew if this is an archetype that would be found in this AP.
Yes, it is in Tomorrow Must Burn, the 3rd book in the path. It is on page 75 of the book. The requirement is Chr 14, Expert in Stealth and Survival, and member of the Bellflower Network.

It should also be noted this dedication is a level 6 feat rather than the level 2 for the multiclass dedications .

Personally, I'd like to take this on my Age of Ashes Emancipated Halfling Thief, but between the Charisma requirement, the fact that I already 'dipped' into cleric (sadly, the drunkard was the only real anti-slavery option), and the fact that Rogue feats start looking really good at levels 6 and higher, I don't think it is going to happen.

It doesn't help that the adventure (that I will be playing) that offers it is level 9, which means I'll be in double digit levels before I can take any (without massive retraining at least), which really increases the 'opportunity cost' of this archetype.

Well, all the dedication gives you is +5 foot move speed, and you can give up to 6 other people a +5' speed for overland travel only if they stay within 60' of the tiller.

Actually, since I already took Fleet at level 3, it would allow my entire party to use my 35 movement for overland travel, so it's probably a little better than just a +5 bonus (depending on character builds, of course). Also, there is a followup feat that increases everyone's movement (for all purposes) by another 5.

I like the general flavor (though treating your fellow party members as your 'crop' doesn't quite feel right to me) but the opportunity cost is awfully high.


My character is a Human Bard would he be eligible to join?


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As I recall, halflings are the majority of the organization, and they need more proof to trust other members of other races as members, but that isn't a hard prohibition, and there areally non halfling bwllflowers. The 1E prestige class required sneak attack, but I don't think there's any real class requirement on being a member of the organization, here.

The requirements you'd need to meet to be a member are really story requirements, not build requirements.


You could just go read the archetype yourself here


chapter 3, anyone know what levels that is comprised of?


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levels 9th through 12th.


ohh interesting, the feats on the page start at level 6, does that mean you can become a member of the Bellflower network before the 3rd book?

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Atalius wrote:
ohh interesting, the feats on the page start at level 6, does that mean you can become a member of the Bellflower network before the 3rd book?

Well, one of the requirements is that you're a member of the Bellflower network. There is a background in the world guide, pg 106, called Bellflower Agent. If you took that, I would say that meets the requirements. Otherwise, you don't really have an in-game opportunity in the campaign to meet the network and join it until book 3.


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Taja the Barbarian wrote:


I like the general flavor (though treating your fellow party members as your 'crop' doesn't quite feel right to me)...

I had the same reaction at first. Why would fellow adventurers be akin to refugees hustling to escape under the guidance of the Tiller? It feels dissonant.

But here's how I think of it now:

The Tiller's experience in helping slaves make it to freedom (or perhaps their training under whose who have) has given them the ability to keep up morale and keep people on the move.

Real life examples are always fraught with peril, but here I go anyways. I am a hiker, been a hiker for decades. Sometimes I hike with new hikers, and they are often fairly slow for a whole list of reasons. Out of shape is obvious, but also they take more time to orient and understand the environment relative to a map. They take wrong turns on trails and have to backtrack. They pack their backpacks inefficiently so they take more time whenever they want to retrieve a snack or put on a jacket. They don't know how to best use trekking poles (the first few years I used trekking poles they slowed me down, not sped me up). Etc etc etc...

Now, the experienced hiker has a practiced speed and confidence with orienteering. Their packs are packed efficiently and needed items can be acquired without stopping/repacking. They know their equipment and how to use it well.

So, the Tiller is the experienced hiker who can guide and encourage the new hiker, as it were. That "+5 ft overland travel speed" may not actually mean the party is moving faster; it could mean they are traveling more efficiently with less pointless stopping and backtracking, all due to the Tiller's expert guidance in moving a group of people overland.

I mean... it's as simple as "hey, Johnny needs to pee behind a tree. Everybody else, go pee if you need to, or grab a sip of water or a snack while we're stopped" instead of everybody stopping for Johnny's pee break, then 10 minutes later everybody stopping again for Sue's jacket to go on..

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