Sigil


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Pathfinder Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook Subscriber

The sigil cantrip states:
The mark can be scrubbed or scraped off with 5 minutes of work. If it’s on a creature, it fades naturally over the course of a week.

Does the scrubbed and scraped change when heightening? If the spell is heightened to 7th level, it never fades away from a creature. If it still only takes 5 minutes to scrub it off, what is the point of heightening? As a cantrip, the 1 square inch henna tattoo makes perfect sense. Tag something, the mark can be scrubbed off with purpose or it fades away. Spending higher level slots, I'd expect it to take more effort to scrub away.

On an object, does it need to be heightened to last forever? If I put an invisible mark on a coin, will it stay there until the coin gets to the eccentric banker who polishes every coin for 5 minutes to get a pristine shine?


BishopMcQ wrote:
On an object, does it need to be heightened to last forever? If I put an invisible mark on a coin, will it stay there until the coin gets to the eccentric banker who polishes every coin for 5 minutes to get a pristine shine?

On an object, the duration is unlimited, as it says in the spell entry. It is only on a creature that the mark fades or heightening does anything. Scrubbing and scraping is not mentioned in the heightened entries and thus are not affected by it.


Yeah, fortunately or unfortunately the heightened version does not affect the amount of time it takes to srub off the mark.

So you can't use it to mark someone that doesn't want to be marked, but you can use it to mark an ally to confirm they are your ally. You place an invisible mark on your ally because you know you're going to be dealing with shape changers.

"Prove its you"
"How?"
"Let me see your mark"
"What are you talking about?"
"Kill him!"

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