Alchemist Class Feat: Powerful Alchemy

[Bobby Hostile]

So, I've read over this feat and other than as a pre-req for Potent Poisoner I don't see much, if any, use for this feat. It can be used for Tanglefoot bags, but unless I'm missing something... that's it. Seems like kind of a waste.

Is there something I'm missing?

[Vlorax]

It can be used with all the alchemical poisons, which is probably why it's a pre-req for poisoner.

[Zwordsman]

Its basically only for low level poison--which still requires dipping into Rogue's Poisoned Weapon to work. Even with the new eratta to changing injury poisons, quick alchemy makes it a 3 action thing still.

It does help tanglefoot bags-if you had one of those as your pepetual bombs or quick alchemy'd a lv 1 one.
but overall. that feat line together isn't really useful.
I believe it was probably mostly future proofing or space filler. probably a bit of both.

[Bobby Hostile]

Vlorax wrote:

It can be used with all the alchemical poisons, which is probably why it's a pre-req for poisoner.

I had thought about that. If that’s the case then it negates the need for the Potent Poisoner feat since your poison DC will already be equal to your class DC, right?

Maybe it is about future proofing because right now it seems pointless to me, thus my post.

[thenobledrake]

Potent Poisoner increases the DCs of any poisons you make, while Powerful Alchemy only applies to things made via Quick Alchemy.

[Zwordsman]

Bobby Hostile wrote:

I had thought about that. If that’s the case then it negates the need for the Potent Poisoner feat since your poison DC will already be equal to your class DC, right?

Maybe it is about future proofing because right now it seems pointless to me, thus my post.

Powerful Alch is Quick Alchemy only. POtent Poisoner applies to any poison made anyway.

Quick Alchemy poison generally requires Poisoned Weapon rogue dip. Where as having potent poisoner means makin them in the morning (and more). Potent Poisoner may not reach you Class DC (Depending on your level/stats/which poison). Which is i guess the trade off?

[crimson-canine]

After the remaster, how does alchemical dedication get powerful alchemy?

[Finoan]

crimson-canine wrote:

After the remaster, how does alchemical dedication get powerful alchemy?

Remaster??!

Powerful Alchemy hasn't been available to Alchemist Archetype since CRB 2nd printing when it was changed from being a class feat to being a class feature.

Which was about the time that this thread was originally created.

[HammerJack]

Also, it's 8 months before the part of the remaster that will have the alchemist.

[crimson-canine]

HammerJack wrote:

Also, it's 8 months before the part of the remaster that will have the alchemist.

Ah, my bad. That makes sense, it just seems like an oversight and a significant downgrade of Alchemist dedication in regards to using poisons.