paizo.com Recent Posts in Oracle Playtest Builds Threadpaizo.com Recent Posts in Oracle Playtest Builds Thread2019-12-16T21:13:57Z2019-12-16T21:13:57ZRe: Forums: Oracle Playtest: Oracle Playtest Builds ThreadTusk the Half-Orchttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42u7k?Oracle-Playtest-Builds-Thread#42019-12-03T12:52:12Z2019-12-03T12:52:12Z<p>We did indeed!</p>We did indeed!Tusk the Half-Orc2019-12-03T12:52:12ZRe: Forums: Oracle Playtest: Oracle Playtest Builds ThreadLyz Liddellhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42u7k?Oracle-Playtest-Builds-Thread#32019-12-07T05:18:38Z2019-12-02T18:35:50Z<p>Thanks for the detailed feedback! I hope you had fun with the scenario. :D</p>Thanks for the detailed feedback! I hope you had fun with the scenario. :DLyz Liddell2019-12-02T18:35:50ZRe: Forums: Oracle Playtest: Oracle Playtest Builds ThreadTusk the Half-Orchttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42u7k?Oracle-Playtest-Builds-Thread#22019-12-07T05:18:45Z2019-12-02T04:35:12Z<p>My wife, son, and I just finished our run through The Absalom Initiation with an all-APG Playtest party: my wife GMed, my son played a gnome investigator and a goblin witch, and I played a leshy oracle (flames) and a halfling swashbuckler (fencer). We finished our surveys, and here's what I said (slightly edited for clarity) in the open response survey about playing Renewal from Ashes, my vine leshy Oracle of Flames (at level 4, not the level 8 version posted above).</p>
<p><b>Favorite part about the class:</b>
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I enjoyed the replacement of focus points with escalation of the oracle’s curse - please keep this in the final version of class. The Vision of Weakness feat/revelation spell is very good, as are the other divination feats at higher levels, and add to the unique flavor of the class. </p>
<p><b>Anything about the class that did not live up to your expectations?</b>
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I was surprised to have to take a feat (Divine Element) to gain access to any Flames mystery-themed spells from other spell lists. I suggest that the final version eliminate both the cleric domain feature and the Divine Element class feat. Instead, at 1st level, let the player choose a mystery-themed revelation spell and a 1st level spell from another spell list that matches the mystery (or the curse), with higher level themed spells from other lists available through class feats. Also, while I like the way the curses match the mysteries, it might be better to give players a bit more choice - maybe allow an oracle of each mystery to choose from 2-3 curses that are tied to the mystery? For example, a Flames oracle might choose from the Curse of Smoke (increasing concealment and difficulty breathing, coughing, similar to the progression of the Fog Cloud, Stinking Cloud, Cloudkill spells) OR the Curse of Flames (increasing light levels and dazzled condition, then fire damage, etc.). </p>
<p><b>Any other thoughts:</b>
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I liked the idea and flavor of the oracle having the choice to drain the last of her power to finish the fight and collapsing. I know there has been a lot of discussion on the forums about the impact of the major curse effect, I expect you’re going to tone it down in the final version. That’s fine, but please make it really sting - someone on the forum suggested that the major curse could drain all of the oracle’s spellcasting ability for the rest of the day, which would be a great idea. No more revelation spells, but also no more regular spells from any source, not even cantrips, until she gets 8 hours of rest and an hour of preparation. In exchange, though, please give some additional bonus to the effect of that final revelation spell - maybe treat any success as a critical success, or some other incentive for the oracle to accept the consequences.</p>My wife, son, and I just finished our run through The Absalom Initiation with an all-APG Playtest party: my wife GMed, my son played a gnome investigator and a goblin witch, and I played a leshy oracle (flames) and a halfling swashbuckler (fencer). We finished our surveys, and here's what I said (slightly edited for clarity) in the open response survey about playing Renewal from Ashes, my vine leshy Oracle of Flames (at level 4, not the level 8 version posted above).
Favorite part about the...Tusk the Half-Orc2019-12-02T04:35:12ZForums: Oracle Playtest: Oracle Playtest Builds ThreadTusk the Half-Orchttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs42u7k?Oracle-Playtest-Builds-Thread#12019-12-07T05:18:52Z2019-11-09T22:38:00Z<p>Lyz Liddell <a href="https://paizo.com/threads/rzs42u1e?Oracle-too-playerparty-unfriendly#46" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">says the design team wants us to build some oracles</a>, so post 'em if you've got 'em!</p>
<p>Here's my first attempt. I took him up to level 8 to see how some of the feats and features would play out and was surprised to find myself turning him into a bit of an intimidatomancer as well as a pyromaniac. I may have a chance to play him at level 4 or 5 later in the weekend; my wife has offered to run a converted PF1 scenario for our son and me, so we can each play two characters and try all for playtest classes. </p>
<p>Anyway, without further ado, I present for your review and comment, <b>Renewal from Ashes</b>:</p>
<p><b>Renewal from Ashes</b>
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Male (He/Him) Leshy (Vine Leshy) Oracle (Flames) 8
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Uncommon, CG, Leshy, Plant, Small
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Perception +12 (low-light vision)
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Speed 25'
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Background: Hermit
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Languages: Common, Sylvan</p>
<p><b>Background: Hermit.</b>
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[Spoiler omitted]</p>
<p><b>Defense:</b> AC 23; HP 96; fire resistance 5 (does not apply to damage from Oracular Curse)
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Fort +13, Ref +14, Will +16</p>
<p><b>Melee:</b> <i>+1 striking staff of healing</i> +11 (2d4 B, two-hand d8); dagger +12 (1d4 P; agile, finesse, thrown 10', versatile - slashing)
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<b>Ranged:</b>crossbow +12 (1d8 P)
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Spells: Spell Attack +16, Spell DC 26</p>
<p><b>Skills:</b> Acrobatics +12, Athletics +10, Diplomacy +14, Forest Lore +11, Intimidation +18, Nature +12, Religion +12, Survival +14
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Statistics: Str 10 (+0), Dex 14 (+2), Con 16 (+3), Int 12 (+1), Wis 14 (+2), Cha 19 (+4)</p>
<p><b>Oracle Spell Repertoire (Divine), DC 26, Attack +16:</b> 4th, Air Walk, Divine Wrath (S), Freedom of Movement; 3rd, Fireball (S), Searing Light, Heal; 2nd, Resist Energy, Sound Burst (S), Spiritual Weapon; 1st, Burning Hands (S), Fear, Sanctuary; Cantrips, Daze, Forbidding Ward, Know Direction, Light, Produce Flame, Shield
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- (S) = Signature Spell</p>
<p><b>Revelation Spells:</b> Fire Ray, Incendiary Aura, Vision of Weakness, Whirling Flames</p>
<p><b>Feats</b>
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- Ancestry Feats: Leshy Superstition, Speak With Kindred
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- General and Skill Feats: Battle Cry, Cat Fall, Dubious Knowledge, Group Coercion, Intimidating Glare, Nature Medicine, Terrified Retreat
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- Class Feats: Advanced Revelation, Divine Element, Read Disaster, Vision of Weakness</p>
<p><b>Special Abilities: </b>
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- Ancestry/Heritage: climb without hands free (and success=critical success), low-light vision, plant nutrition
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- Class: flames mystery, fire domain, curse of engulfing flames, expert spellcaster, resolve</p>
<p><b>Equipment:</b> <i>+1 potency rune</i> (explorer's clothing), <i>+1 striking staff of healing</i>, <i>bag of holding I</i>, <i>horn of fog</i>, <i>ring of energy resistance (fire)</i>, <i>wand of wanderer's guide</i>, crossbow and 20 bolts, dagger, <s>wizard</s> oracle class kit, 75gp, 4sp</p>Lyz Liddell says the design team wants us to build some oracles, so post 'em if you've got 'em!
Here's my first attempt. I took him up to level 8 to see how some of the feats and features would play out and was surprised to find myself turning him into a bit of an intimidatomancer as well as a pyromaniac. I may have a chance to play him at level 4 or 5 later in the weekend; my wife has offered to run a converted PF1 scenario for our son and me, so we can each play two characters and try all...Tusk the Half-Orc2019-11-09T22:38:00Z