They outright say "increase the additional damage by...".
Then read barbarian weapon specialization. It also mentions rage and says additional damage.
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Unless I'm missing something, the Control Water spell has no duration - either for its water controlling effect or its slow effect on water traited creatures in the area.
Not sure if this has been addressed elsewhere, but...
wizard
Pages 204 and 206: Wizards gain their first class feat at 2nd level. On page 204, in Table 3-18: Wizard Advancement, remove “wizard feat” from the 1st-level entry. On page 206, in the Wizard Feats section, change the first sentence to “At 2nd level and every even-numbered level thereafter, you gain a wizard class feat.”
Okay, I get that. Except...
Universalist Wizards
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You gain an extra wizard class feat, and you add one 1st-level spell of your choice to your spellbook.
So does a Universalist Wizard get a wizard class feat at level 1, or not? If not, does he get an extra wizard class feat at some other level? If at some other level, which one?
Seems like the Universalist still gets a class feat at level one, but I dunno.
RAW, animal companions suffer a -4 penalty to Intimidate at all times, due to not sharing a language, even if they take the Bully specialization, or are trained in Intimidate. This also applies to any monsters that do not speak any language. This is both unintuitive, and easily overlooked. Is this intended?
To add page numbers the Demoralize rule in question is on Page 247. The Bear animal companion which is trained in Intimidate is on Page 215 and Bully is on Page 217
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RAW, animal companions suffer a -4 penalty to Intimidate at all times, due to not sharing a language, even if they take the Bully specialization, or are trained in Intimidate. This also applies to any monsters that do not speak any language. This is both unintuitive, and easily overlooked. Is this intended?
Also not exclusive to animal companions. Wild bears would have this problem too.
Hustle (Exploration Activity)
"You strain yourself to move at double your travel speed. You can Hustle only for a number of minutes equal to your Constitution modifier × 10 (minimum 10 minutes)."
That doesn't make clear constraints/repurcussions of it's activity.
I believe intent this is cumulative limit (i.e. not necessarily all in one continuous usage),
and once this limit is reached you become Fatigued, which prevents further Exploration activities (of any kind)
until Fatigue is removed, which normally needs 6 hours rest but other means could potentially work.
(rest or other means of fatigue removal should probably also reset the expended duration to zero even if not yet Fatigued)
Hustle (Exploration Activity)
"You strain yourself to move at double your travel speed. You can Hustle only for a number of minutes equal to your Constitution modifier × 10 (minimum 10 minutes)."
Also, minutes? Don't armies double-time it for like hours at a time?
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Hustle is specific mechanic that lets you move TWICE as fast, when 15% faster could plausibly satisfy generalist usage of "hustling".
15% faster only needs to (game mechanic) Hustle 1 out of 6 minutes, thus CON mod X 10 minute limit -> CON mod X 60 minute (1 hour) limit.
Anyhow, if you think it's worth discussion, maybe start a separate thread to keep this one clean?
I posted it here because it's pretty straight forward and didn't think it would require any debate.
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Not sure if this has been addressed elsewhere, but...
wizard
Pages 204 and 206: Wizards gain their first class feat at 2nd level. On page 204, in Table 3-18: Wizard Advancement, remove “wizard feat” from the 1st-level entry. On page 206, in the Wizard Feats section, change the first sentence to “At 2nd level and every even-numbered level thereafter, you gain a wizard class feat.”Okay, I get that. Except...
Universalist Wizards
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You gain an extra wizard class feat, and you add one 1st-level spell of your choice to your spellbook.So does a Universalist Wizard get a wizard class feat at level 1, or not? If not, does he get an extra wizard class feat at some other level? If at some other level, which one?
Seems like the Universalist still gets a class feat at level one, but I dunno.
I'll lay it just for clarity!
Originally, it was printed that all Wizards got a bonus class feat at 1st level, regardless of their school or thesis choice.
This appeared to be in addition to any they would gain from various class options.
So, as originally printed, a 1st level Universalist Wizard would have had:
x2 Bonus Wizard Class Feats
This original printing was in error, and Wizard's were not intended to get a class feat at 1st level. This is regardless of school or thesis options, which all apply their effects.
Which means, as currently stated, a 1st level Universalist Wizard would have:
x1 Bonus Wizard Class Feat
A 1st level Wizard may still have more Wizard class feats, say if they are human or their thesis option grants them. But these have no real impact on overall feat allowance.
Hope this helped!
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The wording for Emanations is confusing, with incongruent phrasings that imply assumptions without clearly stating parameters.
To begin with, Emanation is subset of Area, which doesn't have target type restrictions and may have Range.
An emanation issues forth from each side of your space, extending out to a specified number of feet in all directions. For instance, the bless spell’s emanation radiates 5 or more feet outward from the caster. Because the sides of a target’s space are used as the starting point for the emanation, an emanation from a Large or larger creature affects a greater overall area than that of a Medium or smaller creature. An emanation effect includes the target of the emanation, but the creature creating the effect can exclude the target if desired.
Emanation rules start out with phrasal assumption of targetting yourself, or otherwise Emanating from yourself.
It goes on to mention "sides of a target’s space are used as the starting point for the emanation", as well as "An emanation effect includes the target of the emanation, but the creature creating the effect can exclude the target if desired" which fairly establish that "you" isn't the only valid target, since it doesn't make sense to generically speak of "a target's space" or "the target of the emanation" if Emanations can only target "you". If "you" is intended to be only valid Emanation target, the phrasing could be tightened up to reflect that, and explicitly state that restriction.
Although it does tend to give impression only creatures are valid targets, as it's awkward to consider a location (or square) "having a space", it doesn't actually formally express that restriction. I don't see inherent reason why Emanations MUST only target creatures and not locations/squares, there could be valid applications of Emanation targetting a location... But if there is meant to be requirement that Emanations only target creatures, that should be explicitly stated. And the initial assumptive phrasing with "you" should be generalized to "target creature" (or "target creature or square" if that is allowed).
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Relatedly, we have the spell Synaptic Pulse:
Range 30 feet; Area 30-foot emanation Saving Throw Will; Duration 1 round
You emit a pulsating mental blast that penetrates the minds of all enemies in the area. Each creature in the area must attempt a Will save.
As written, it has a range, which could plausibly target a creature or a square. The problem with that is only the target of Emanation may be optionally excluded from the effect, and the Area radius equals the Range... So when targetting other creatures/squares within stated Range, the caster will always be within Area, and yet unable to exclude themselves from effect which seems weird.
That relates to further problem, that while 1st sentence references "all enemies in the area", the subsequent (mechanical) sentence states "each creature in the area" are affected (which would include the caster, as above, along with other allies). Changing it to only affect enemies would remove the problem with affecting the caster themself, but the spell could also work while targetting ALL creatures in area if it wasn't a Ranged target Emanation... but was just 30' Emanation from Caster ("you") with no Range entry. That may well be the intention, I can't say since multiple solutions seem potentially workable... Some of this depending on how Emanations function in general.
Virulent Afflications says:
Is intent for CritSuccess to bypass two consecutive save requirement, or count as 2 consecutive saves?
As is, it seems functionally identical to normal Save, yet if intented for CritSuccess to be identical to normal Success why not directly say so?
Or state that one cannot Critically Succeed on a Virulent Affliction, instead of tweaking it's mechanics to "effectively" be equal to normal Success?
Reloading ranged weapons that use ammo is Interact action which has Manipulate trait. (meaning Grabbed imposes flat check to lose action)
Bows are special in that they have Reload 0, which means it has 0 Reload Interact actions with Manipulate trait.
So seemingly Bows can be freely reloaded and shot without any repurcussion of Manipulate trait, which seems weird.
(even Dropping/Releasing an item has Manipulate trait, albeit as Free action it could be repeated if failing Grab flat check)
Yet Reload 0 also says you "draw ammo" as part of attack, plausibly meaning attack counts as Interact/Manipulate (per Changing Equipment).
If this is the intent, i.e. attack is treated as a Draw or Reload Interact action with Manipulate trait, it seems that should be directly stated.
The current wording that removes all Interact actions doesn't explicitly convey any changes to the attack itself, which is very confusing.
EDIT: compare to Running Reload which is single action that explicitly includes "Interact to reload" rather than just saying you draw ammo as part of it.
Unconventional Weaponry (Human Ancestry Feat) fluff somewhat conflicts with rules text:
"potentially from another ancestry or culture" VS "Choose... weapon with a trait corresponding to an ancestry... or that is common in another culture"
Not so "potentially", as it is currently worded...
Relatedly, it feels irrationally limited to REQUIRE that weapon must be Uncommon.
This would be perfect for a Rogue who wants a Deity's Favored Weapon that is common Martial, like Starknife, but by RAW: no dice.
Weapon associations with Human cultures isn't currently so clear, although Cultural Weapon Familiarity Feats seem plausible...
(Viking Shieldbearer does give Ulfen plausible RAW cultural weaponry of longsword/battleaxe - no shield bash (martial) currently)
But it also seems reasonable to just explicitly enable Deity Favored Weapons as qualifying options,
since religion is treated distinctly from "culture" in game terms yet thematically is coherent and plausible.
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Stunned and "Gaining and Losing Actions" Sidebar dont' seem like they are synched up 100%
You’ve become senseless. You can’t act while stunned. Stunned usually includes a value, which indicates how many total actions you lose, possibly over multiple turns, from being stunned. Each time you regain actions (such as at the start of your turn), reduce the number you regain by your stunned value, then reduce your stunned value by the number of actions you lost.
Quickened, slowed, and stunned are the primary ways you can gain or lose actions on a turn. The rules for how this works appear on page 462. In brief, these conditions alter how many actions you regain at the start of your turn; thus, gaining the condition in the middle of your turn doesn’t adjust your number of actions on that turn.
Some conditions prevent you from taking a certain subset of actions, typically reactions. Other conditions simply say you can’t act. When you can’t act, you’re unable to take any actions at all. Unlike slowed or stunned, these don’t change the number of actions you regain; they just prevent you from using them. That means if you are somehow cured of paralysis on your turn, you can act immediately.
While Stunned clearly directly states "you can't act while stunned", the sidebar CONTRASTS "slowed or stunned" with conditions that "simply say you can't act".
What happens if you become Stunned in the middle of your turn (from Reaction or Readied action or automatic effect)?
You immediately "can't act", so can't use remaining actions on your turn. Next round(s), the Stun value reduces some or all of your alloted actions.
Stun's claim the value "indicates how many total actions you lose, possibly over multiple turns" is inaccurate, since you in addition can lose action in remainder of turn you were stunned.
Likewise wrong is Sidebar claim "gaining the condition in the middle of your turn doesn’t adjust your number of actions on that turn".
It seems plausible Stunned could be rephrased so Stun value also negates remaining actions immediately when condition acquired, value carrying over to be applied next turn.
The Sidebar needs reworking because in it's current form Stun is spanning both categories so cannot serve as contrast as in second part of Sidebar I quoted.
I think ideally to avoid confusion it should be actively affirmed that Stunned is utilizing BOTH of these mechanics if that is the desired functionality.
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"Stunned" takes effect at the beginning of your turn. So if something stuns you in the middle of your turn, it has no immediate effect. At the beginning of your next turn, you lose however many actions equates to the stunned value (unless it's more than 3, in which case you lose all three of your actions for that turn, and the remainder carries over to the turn after that).
That's one interpretation. The other is that at the instant you become stunned, "you can't act". If you were in the middle of an action, that action is aborted. Any remaining actions you might have taken in the current turn are lost. At the beginning of your next turn, you lose however many actions equates to the stunned value (unless it's more than 3, in which case you lose all three of your actions for that turn, and the remainder carries over to the turn after that).
The second is what the rules under "Stunned" on page 622 say. The former is what the sidebar "gaining and losing actions" on that same page says. Which interpretation is intended I can't say, but if I had to make a decision, I'd go with the second one, on the grounds that a sidebar should not overrule the basic rule.
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Channel Smite is 2 action activity that allows making a melee Strike with Heal/Harm spell as bonus damage. Heal/Harm damage depends on number of actions used to cast it. The fact this is effect of Channel Smite which uses 2 actions is only direct evidence of how many actions should be used to determine Heal/Harm damage. Is 2-action Heal/Harm damage bonus intended, or is 1-action intended? Also, should Channel Smite activity have Somatic/Manipulate and Verbal traits? (as casting Heal/Harm)
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Both Warpriest and Cloistered Cleric get CritSpec with Favored Weapon (Cloistered just 4 levels later). Some CritSpec effects (Brawling) use a DC, which both Doctrines state uses Spell DC. Is it intended that Cloistered Clerics are stronger in this area than Warpriests, because of latter's lower Spell DC?
^ Sorry for 2-action thing, only relevant for healing not damage, so not ambiguous re: Channel Smite.
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Wilderness Spotter Feat allows using Survival for Init at all times in chosen Terrain, but it's wording heavily implies the normal baseline function of Survival allows it to used for Init *when Tracking*. That isn't mentioned in base skill or Tracking action, or in Initiative rules (which mention broad range of social skills without detail, yet misses Survival/Tracking despite it apparently being specific thing).
I wouldn't necessarily have thought Survival while Tracking was inherently justifiable to use for Initiative, so it seems worth explicitly mentioning it in normal rules where all players and GMs could make use of it. Just knowing this function can change value of Survival skill, and even motivate Tracking usage where it might not otherwise be strict priority.
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Copying my post from the other thread:
Rough Rider Goblin Feat: (https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=45)
"You are especially good at riding traditional goblin mounts. You gain the Ride feat, even if you don’t meet the prerequisites."But the Ride feat has no prereqs.(https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=835)
Ride requires level 1, so this could matter for NPC builds, even if never for PC builds (outside some "start at zero" campaign).
Copying my post from the other thread:
Rough Rider Goblin Feat: (https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=45)
"You are especially good at riding traditional goblin mounts. You gain the Ride feat, even if you don’t meet the prerequisites."But the Ride feat has no prereqs.(https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=835)
The other thread? Is there only one? :-)
If there were prerequisites, and the line was simply "You gain the ride feat", folks would argue that you don't gain it if you don't meet the prerequisites. The current wording accounts for the possibility that the ride feat might later gain some prereqs.
Copying my post from the other thread:
Rough Rider Goblin Feat: (https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=45)
"You are especially good at riding traditional goblin mounts. You gain the Ride feat, even if you don’t meet the prerequisites."But the Ride feat has no prereqs.(https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=835)
The other thread? Is there only one? :-)
If there were prerequisites, and the line was simply "You gain the ride feat", folks would argue that you don't gain it if you don't meet the prerequisites. The current wording accounts for the possibility that the ride feat might later gain some prereqs.
SO the wording is there in case they later errata Ride? It seems more likely that there were once considerations for having prerequisites for it and then they got nixed and this is hold over language that should be removed to avoid confusion. Unless it is about being able to use a wolf like animal for a mount in which case it needs to be made more specific.
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There are sorceror bloodlines (Fey, Imperial) who have bloodline magic buffs that can apply to themselves or another target. However the rule book does not give you any mechanic to apply these buffs to an ally other than to cast an attack or an enchantment effect on them or in their area. At our table we have used a range of touch but official clarification about this would be appreciated.
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Tracker's Goggles does not list the type of bonus it grants.
>While wearing these goggles, you gain a +1 bonus to Survival checks to Sense Direction and Track.
Which means it can stack with a Coyote Cloak.
I suspect that the Tracker's Goggles are supposed to be a Circumstance Bonus, since it only helps with specific usages of the Survival skill, while the Coyote Cloak helps with all uses. For example, compare the benefit of an Animal Staff (+2 Circumstance bonus to Nature checks to identify animals) to Druid's Vestments (+2 Item bonus to Nature checks). So I don't think that the two stacking is a problem.
As written, the level 8 feats Sense Chaos and Sense Evil will not start working until encountering enemies/challenges of 11th level, which would be an "Severe- or extreme-threat boss" according to encounter building rules.
This means these feats are generally worthless at the level they are gotten, and should be altered somehow, whether by level or power.
Correction. 16th level.
You sense evil as a queasy or foreboding feeling. When in the
presence of an aura of evil that is powerful or overwhelming
(page 328)
Creature or Spell or
Item Level Aura Strength
0–5 None
6–10 Faint
11–15 Moderate
16–20 Powerful
21+ Overwhelming
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As written, the level 8 feats Sense Chaos and Sense Evil will not start working until encountering enemies/challenges of 11th level, which would be an "Severe- or extreme-threat boss" according to encounter building rules.
This means these feats are generally worthless at the level they are gotten, and should be altered somehow, whether by level or power.
Correction. 16th level.
You sense evil as a queasy or foreboding feeling. When in the
presence of an aura of evil that is powerful or overwhelming
(page 328)Creature or Spell or
Item Level Aura Strength
0–5 None
6–10 Faint
11–15 Moderate
16–20 Powerful
21+ Overwhelming
From what I can tell, DemonicDem appears to be correct. He is looking at the rules in alignment aura above the part you're quoting which state
"Alignment Aura
The strength of an alignment aura depends on the level of the creature, item, or spell. The auras of undead, clerics and other divine spellcasters with a patron deity, and creatures from the Outer Sphere are one step stronger than normal (faint instead of none, for example)."
(Although I'm not convinced the feat really needs a change, encounter building guidelines state character level +/- 4 are acceptable... but ultimately that's not really my call to make)
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Page 464:
"The primary concepts you need to know
for understanding senses are precise senses, imprecise
senses, and the three states of detection a target can be
in: observed, hidden, or undetected."It should be:
"...observed, hidden, undetected, or unnoticed"
as the Groups of Conditions sidebar says on Page 619
If something is unnoticed you have no idea they exist, let alone that they’re there. So not a typo I’d say since they’re not a target, because you don’t know about them.