Can you use multiple Strides with monk's Water Step?

[Ravingdork]

Do you fall in or have the surface collapse after you finish your first stride, or only after you finish all of your consecutive strides for the round?

For example, if I'm a monk with 40-foot speed, can I move 40 feet prior to collapse? Or potentially 120 feet prior to collapse?

In either case, I'm guessing I couldn't Stride, Strike (or other action), then Stride again without falling after the first Stride.

[graystone]

As written, 40' then fall into water.

[Mellored]

graystone wrote:

As written, 40' then fall into water.

While true, I don't see anything that prevents you from using your next stride to get back on top and for another 40'.

You would still be underwater if you attacked. And still take damage from your quick dip in acid/lava.

Might want to look at flying kick. That let's you hit someone, splash, then you can water walk away.

[beowulf99]

I tend to agree with Graystone. Each action a character takes during their turn is taken one at a time. Unless you have some form of compound action that allows you multiple Strides in the same "action" the order of operations would be this:

Stride 40 feet. End action, submerge in water.

I'm not sure what sort of action would be required to get "on top of" the water. Perhaps a Swim?

The feat seems to be written from the perspective that you are beginning your movement on solid ground and then running over the top of a liquid surface. As written it doesn't appear that you can use the feat from inside of water without some method of getting "on top of" the water.

[graystone]

Mellored wrote:

graystone wrote:

As written, 40' then fall into water.

While true, I don't see anything that prevents you from using your next stride to get back on top and for another 40'.

You'd have to find a way to get your feet on the top side of the water again. I see nothing that would allow you to start in the water and get on top of it with this ability: the ability only lets you run across the surface. Flying Kick could get you out of the water but that too requires you fall to the ground again at the end of the action so before your action you fall and are in the water again. IMO, it looks like you'd have to leave the water to use Water Step again.

[Mellored]

graystone wrote:

Mellored wrote:

graystone wrote:

As written, 40' then fall into water.

While true, I don't see anything that prevents you from using your next stride to get back on top and for another 40'.

You'd have to find a way to get your feet on the top side of the water again. I see nothing that would allow you to start in the water and get on top of it with this ability: the ability only lets you run across the surface. Flying Kick could get you out of the water but that too requires you fall to the ground again at the end of the action so before your action you fall and are in the water again. IMO, it looks like you'd have to leave the water to use Water Step again.

"Since the Stride action can be used only with your normal Speed, moving using one of these movement types requires using a special action"

"You can Stride across liquid..."

"Switching from one movement type to another requires ending your action that has the first movement type and using a new action that has the second movement type"

Looks like you are right.

[Ravingdork]

The mental image of a character plopping beneath the water every 40 feet seems kind of absurd to me.

[Samurai]

It never specifies, so I can see 2 ways to go about it:

1) You have 1 turn to get across the water. If your turn ends and you are still on the water, you fall in.

2) As long as you keep moving each turn, you don't fall in. If you go non-stop you could cross the Amazon river or even a large lake.

[Malk_Content]

I see it like a skipping stone. You can get good and really far, but eventually the momentum you started with (in this case springing of a solid surface) won't be enough to carry you further.