I've got a couple of questions about the timing of spells within the spell resolution. Specifically the saving throws made with a spell.
1) I'm a thaumaturge with the lingering pain invocation. I use lingering pain, do my targets of the spell take the -2 to their saving throws from being sickened against my spell?
2) I'm using blood wrack admixture talent with the thorn blast destruction talent. Do I roll damage, give them bleeding, then make them save vs my blood spell (thus making them take -4 to their saving throw because they have the bleeding condition)? Or does the damage not get applied until after they save vs. the blood spell?
3) Put the two questions together, what penalty does the victim take saving on a blood spell then?
