Covering an object with something invisible?

[GM Chyro]

Hello all,

So, a PC is invisible and is taking a potion bottle from someone's pocket.
Can the PC make the potion invisible by putting it in his own pocket/sleeve?

Or do observers now see a floating potion?

[Scott Wilhelm]

The description of Invisibility says

Invisibility wrote:

items picked up disappear if tucked into the clothing or pouches worn by the creature.

So, no floating potion.

[Muse.]

Scott Wilhelm wrote:

The description of Invisibility says

Invisibility wrote:

items picked up disappear if tucked into the clothing or pouches worn by the creature.

So, no floating potion.

wow... I'm getting the mental image of an invisible kangaroo pickpocket... "...disappear if tucked into ...pouch..."

In fact, his name should be Oliver ... oliver Twist. Shipped off "Down Under" for his life of crime...

[Tchek]

On the other hand, if you make an object like a blanket invisible and wrap it around a visible object, that object stays visible.

[Muse.]

Tchek wrote:

On the other hand, if you make an object like a blanket invisible and wrap it around a visible object, that object stays visible.

really? I would think it would become invisible.

if I take that blanket and tuck it in my collar and call it a cape, then pick up a visible object (say a dagger) and tuck it into folds in my cape (the blanket), I believe that it would become invisible. It is "tucked into the clothing" right?

[Muse.]

PC casts invisibility on herself. She then picks up a coin from the table and places it in her Handy Haversack. It (the coin) becomes invisible.

Now she takes her Haversack off and puts it down (it becomes visible), and realizing her mistake, she casts invisibility on the Haversack. And puts another coin in the pack. Is the second coin visible?

to qoute Dorian Grey: "We'll be at this all day..." - the invisibility rules ... are complicated...

[blahpers]

It's a handy haversack. The coin isn't visible regardless because it's in an extradimensional space.

[Kayerloth]

blahpers wrote:

It's a handy haversack. The coin isn't visible regardless because it's in an extradimensional space.

Or maybe it's a Shrodinger's coin, do we even know if it exists? (Maybe its actually a Haversack of Devouring? :P) How about if it was a normal sack. Well you've put it down so the sack is no longer invisible and the coin well it may or may not have the invisible state. It is hidden from view (Total Cover) which is not quite the same as invisible. You'd have a LoE but not LoS to the coin if it was invisible but have neither LoE or LoS while it is within the sack. But now you've cast Invisibility on your Sack can you see the coin?

Now the answer bears on another topic in another thread (by Ravingdork) about unusual uses for spells. The suggestion was cast Invisibility on a door. Now you could see through the invisible door and see any occupants in the room, where they were, what they were doing etc.. In order for that to work you would have to answer that you can now see the coin. I thought it was clever at the time but now thinking it wouldn't work. Otherwise you couldn't hide stuff in your pockets while you were invisible because you'd see right through to the object which clearly isn't the case, i.e. the spell isn't 'Transparency' or 'X-ray Vision' or the old 2E spell 'Glassee'.

And now we have to stop and go "because magic" otherwise what do you see? The floor, but then why the floor and not the coin? So just ... Magic.

[blahpers]

I was thinking about this later and realized that just because something is in an extradimensional space doesn't mean that you can't see it from outside of the space. So now I wonder what it looks like if you design a handy haversack out of clear plastic and fill it with stuff. Probably similar to how a TARDIS would look if it were configured to appear like it was made out of clear glass. Which would be pretty trippy.