Is there a spell that makes you unable to read?


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


If not, what level would it be? Assuming it's permenant and they can't read or write in any language they know.(They could still talk, but if they try to read it just seems like meaningless weird symbols.)


Arguably you could make that a variant of Bestow Curse.

Compare with the other effects of (Greater) Bestow Curse , as well as with Amnesia which explicitly does not remove literacy but does remove a whole boatload of other things.

Forcing them to make a Linguistics Check equal to the Save DC of the spell each time they look at characters in order to see if they appear normally or they can decipher them might be easier to get by a GM as a 3rd level spell, though.


Blindness-deafness. 2nd level wizard, 3rd level cleric. I can't imagine permanent illiteracy being any higher in level seeing as blindness-deafness does that and then some.

It's well within the bounds of bestow curse as well.

Silver Crusade

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Feeblemind would certainly do the trick. More than you probably have in mind.


Converted from 2e

Confuse Languages
(Transmutation)
Level: Alchemist 1, Bard 1, Psychic 1, Shaman 1, Sor/Wiz 1, witch 1
Casting time: 1 standard action
Components: V, S, M (a pinch of soot)
Range: touch
Target: 1 creature or piece of writing
duration: 10 minutes/level
Saving throw: special (Will negates or none)
Spell Resistance: yes

You render one creature unable to understand spoken or written language. The target is allowed a saving throw to resist this effect. Alternatively, you render one inscription incomprehensible. This effect allows no saving throw.

Related to this, there is babble, the reverse form of tongues, which renders all speech incomprehensible in an area.

1e/2e: for all your 3.x needs.


There's no obvious way to remove that though. Maybe via remove curse, or dispel magic? It doesn't say.


And you need to specify whether the target can read a scroll or other non-linguistic inscription.

Dark Archive

I know that the spell Aphasia makes one incapable of reading, but it also prevents general communication and isn't permanent.

It is a lvl 1 spell though.


avr wrote:
There's no obvious way to remove that though. Maybe via remove curse, or dispel magic? It doesn't say.
Mudfoot wrote:
And you need to specify whether the target can read a scroll or other non-linguistic inscription.

I assume these two posts were addressed to me.

1. There is a duration and it's a magical effect, so it stands to reason that can be removed by anything that can remove magic will work. Not to mention that it's a reverse form, so it cancels and is canceled by Comprehend Languages. Most spells do not bother to say they can be removed by Dispel Magic, and ones that can specifically be removed by other spells like Remove Curse or Break Enchantment tend to state this.

2. a) By 'scroll' I assume you mean a spell scroll. Depends on if you count spell scrolls as being based on language. If so, then you can't read them.
b) Non-linguistic inscriptions are, as you say, not languages, so the spell that confuses languages would probably not work on them.

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