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I didn't see a thread for this, soooo....
We already know Robert Pattinson has been chosen as Batman/Bruce Wayne. Although I think he might be able to pull it off, I'm still a little "meh". The only thing I've ever seen him in is the Harry Potter movies.
Now there was this bit of interesting rumor....
Matt Reeves Reportedly Met With Mahershala Ali To Play Commissioner Gordon In ‘The Batman’
My first thought on that was..."No way! Ali is too young. Gordon should be at least a decade older than Batman." Turns out, Ali is way older than I thought (around 45), and he's got a good 12 years on Pattinson.
My second thought was...why would you want an actor as Gordon who could upstage your lead. Then I remembered the last two pairings of Gordon/Batman actors, and realized they'd already done it.
I wonder if this fell through because of Disney snagging Ali for Blade.
I'm honestly not believing anything until they start filming and principal production is done, A-zombie.
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Watch The Lighthouse Pattison is a very good actor. He just has the Twilight stigma folowing him around.
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'The Batman' Targets Jeffrey Wright as Commissioner Gordon
A solid choice. I know I've seen him in some of the Daniel Craig Bond flicks, and he's been great in those. Not sure what else I might have seen him in, off the top of my head.
Well he has been in that little TV show called West World, A-zombie... ;)
But yeah, if this holds true, I'd like to see Jeffrey Wright play Gordon.
It's certainly got a very "Year One" or "Year Two" vibe to it.
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I'll admit, my brain still had a lot of skepticism about this film.
Thankfully, I watched the trailer. While I still harbor a lot of cautiousness about the movie, it's now cautious optimism rather than skepticism.
This was one of the first Batman trailers I've ever seen that made me think they're putting the "Detective" into it in a big way. I got a grim, gritty, feel from this. I've even read some people describing it as Seven meets super-hero comics. And it definitely seems to be a darker turn for Riddler, of which I approve.
And I now have far less doubt that Pattinson will make a capable Batman.
Pattinson as Batman didn't bother me. I was a little more concerned with Gollum as Alfred. But I'm glad so far that we're not getting "My Precious!"...so far.
And yeah I'm glad also, Joel, the intent and vibe are meshing.
I just like the music. I mean the acting is great, (what we've seen in the trailer) but the music sells a goodly amount to me.
Looks interesting enough. My stance is wait for streaming on HBO Max unless overwhelmingly positive reviews and word of mouth.
Mine is kind of the same...but I might see in theaters IF I think it's worth it.
Yeah I mean I accepted that's how Bale saw how Batman kept his identity a secret, but I'm glad that Robert Pattinson isn't doing that.
Today's trailer is more intriguing than the last one...but if they have another one...not sure I'd object.
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Just got back from seeing the movie.
My verdict - best Batman movie since the first Burton movie. Great story, solid to magnificent casting. I could definitely see the influences of the comic book stories the director claimed as inspiration.
The biggest criticisms I have are really more like nitpicking.
Maybe I’m crazy, but they seemed to say Martha was from the Arkham family. Martha Wayne is not supposed to be from the Arkham family. She was a Kane before she married Thomas.
I didn’t like him living in Wayne Tower instead of the Manor.
Just got back from seeing the movie.
My verdict - best Batman movie since the first Burton movie. Great story, solid to magnificent casting. I could definitely see the influences of the comic book stories the director claimed as inspiration.
The biggest criticisms I have are really more like nitpicking.
** spoiler omitted **
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I’d heard about the deleted scene where Batman consults with Joker. I’m kind both glad they kept it out, and kind of bummed. Glad because I thought it would be too much Joker in the movie, and because I thought his make-up looked terrible. Kind of bummed because I like the reference to there being an anniversary, indicating they’ve already clashed.
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I finally saw this yesterday. It was overall really good, but I was really bothered by how often Batman gets shot and just doesn't care. At least three times, he gets shot and keeps standing there. Batman getting shot should at least get a reaction. Ideally, Batman uses stealth and brains to take out gunmen before they shoot.
Not like Dune got as many as Quark Blast said Dune would. And The Batman has soundly thrashed Dune at the Box Office. So why would someone even bring it up?
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Felt like the influenced by Batman movie. Touch of Bladerunner detective noir, dark rainy crime ridden city with emo rock like the crow, cat and mouse like game between the riddler like the Dark Knight... Great influences and I really liked the film, but I dont think it has its own identity, which will keep it from being considered a great movie.
Cast was excellent, and I liked a more introverted Batman we got from Patterson. Turturro proved, once again, he is a real underrated actor that out did himself in this film (so much presence!). Colin Ferrell's Penguin gave a real comic book almost Dick Tracy feel.
I was disappointed in Kravitz catwoman, not by her acting, but I feel the writing let her down. The character felt like she was there to move the plot around and be a cosplay doll. Jeffrey Wright's Gordon had the same issue. How many times does Gordon repeat, slowly, exactly what the audience just saw, knew, and read before he mutters it out? Also, why does anyone in the police force put up with Gordon? They clearly hate him and his friendship with Batman, but they just allow Gordon a wide berth.
Overall, a good solid addition to the Bat flicks.
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I liked it.
It had some of the grittiness of the Nolan series, but the philosophy of Batman was definitely different. There's still a failure in addressing that philosophy... investing however much money he spends fighting crime into a jobs program would likely reduce crime by several orders of magnitude more than one guy being a badass on the streets. But at least the movie looks at the efficacy to some degree.
It could have used a little more variation in the music.
As for "movie of the year", I don't think this holds any sort of candle to Everything Everywhere All at Once. I don't know if that one will be the best movie of the year, but it was the most fun I've had in a theater in many, many years. My eyes genuinely hurt after the movie, caused by the combination of laughing and crying so much.
At least to start with - you can bring in the gadgets to help cope with the more extreme supervillains that come along. Not like a jobs program would really help with the sometimes super-powered monsters that Gotham attracts.
Who was the super villain that caused Bruce Wayne to invent the character of the Batman in this movie? Maybe I missed it.
Falcone was ultimately responsible for some of the events, but Bruce was unaware of his actions until the end of the movie.
The Riddler didn't start his first crime spree until 2 years after the Batman started his night patrols.
The Penguin was just a small-time club owner.
The concept of super-powered monsters doesn't currently exist in this movie.
Sure, my comments were specifically about this movie, not about the general Batman oeuvre.
The conceit is that Batman is trying to solve crime in general. Common crimes, like robbery, mugging, assault, etc.
The movie does address the violent vs supportive dynamic. For example, the first person he saves is afraid of him, and the movie ends with Batman using light to lead people to safety. I think that's actually a good dynamic, but I also think the movie could have gone slightly further. For example, some comments from the young new mayor about how the city needs to focus more on helping people and less on caped crusaders. My guess is that the writers/directors/studio may have nixed that because it would too accurately reflect some of the recent political tensions in the real world, but at least overtly acknowledging these ideas from the real world would have made it feel even more relevant and real IMO.
Partly, I think this would make it resonate more because no Batman movie is going to be a timeless classic. They're always making a new Batman, so just trying to reflect the time of it's making would help Batman continuously feel relevant. He can be a very malleable character, and it'd be cool to see that used more.