the rules say the monk can trip,disarm or sunder instead of attack,does that mean if he had 4 attacks he can sub out some or all for these manuvers ,lets say 3 trips and 1 attack?
and do those trips use the monks cmb or offensive bab?
thnks
Yes, that's what it means. From the description of Flurry of Blows: A monk may substitute disarm, sunder, and trip combat maneuvers for unarmed attacks as part of a flurry of blows.
He would use his CMB, just like always.
Yes he can sub out. You use your bab + attack bonuses + the proper stat mod (dex or str normally).
I think you're having a flashback to 3.X. :)
In PF, you alway use CMB to resolve manoeuvres.
Yes, to be clear, I agree that you use your CMB. Remember however, the CMB is your offensive BAB + the appropriate mod.
So, if you have weapon finesse, you would use your dex to figure out your CMB. If you are a zen archer / fighter archer who can use his wisdom for bows and can sunder with a bow, then you use you Wis mod when figuring your CMB.
Not correct. You need the "Agile Maneuvers" feat to use your DEX bonus to calculate your CMB instead of STR. Unless you have the feat which allows you to swap a certain modifier, CMB is always calculated using your STR modifer. As far as I know, there is no feat to use WIS for CMB instead of STR, but I may be wrong.
Also something to note, while the character will always use his CMB, it will also drop as he uses his iterative attacks. We do get an odd interaction though because the monk's BAB does not equal his BAB while flurrying, but the rules state clearly that while flurrying his BAB is equal to monk level (adjusted for two weapon fighting with light weapons. So, if a monk is flurying and takes multiple combat maneuvers his BAB attack sequence would be (at level 20) +18/+18/+13/+13/+8/+8/+3. Any attack or combat maneuver in the sequence would use the appropriate BAB for that attack/maneuver. Then you would add the proper modifiers for attack rolls of combat maneuvers. Often, you will have bonuses that overlap but the modifiers for each will probably still be different. Without a feat you don't add dex to CMB (and this would be instead of strength). You would get to apply a bonus from an amulet of mighty fists to both attack and maneuvers though.
@Banjoman87 You are wrong...if you have weapon finesse you CAN use Dex in place of strength for certain maneuvers, mostly disarm, sunder and trip since those are done using weapons.
If a monk has weapon finesse he uses dex to hit for his unarmed strikes, so he would use his dex in place of str when using disarm, sunder or trip attempts
To the OP yes, you can sub any of those three maneuvers for any attack you make as part of a flurry
You use your CMB, but you also add any bonuses and take any penalties from your attacks as well.
So Monk lvl 5 flurries, his BAB is +5 for his flurry, -2 to each attack for TWF, so +3/+3 (like it says on the monk chart)
lets say you have a 18 str, weapon focus (unarmed), and an AoMF +1
so now your attack bonus for both attacks is
+5(monk lvl BAB)+4(str)+1(WF)+1(AoMF)-2(TWF)=+9
now your CMB based on your STR is +3(BAB)+4(STR)=+7 BUT...
if you are flurrying and using disarm, sunder, or trip, then you use all of your bonuses like you were attacking
So you could perform lets say a disarm and trip instead of 2 attacks, both would be rolled as a d20+9
got it :), if not please ask for what is confusing you