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I, Lucifer wrote:

A whole list of Ideas for aliens...

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Well, that makes one of us.


More uplifted animals - no more anthropomorphized space animals.

Scarab Sages

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The Ragi wrote:
More uplifted animals - no more anthropomorphized space animals.

You realize that uplifted animals in a Sci-Fi setting ARE anthropomorphic space animals, right?

Anthropo=Human
morphic=Shape,
space=These creatures work in space.

The uplifted bear is bipedal and has human-like brachiation, anthropomorphic.

Pedantic man, AWAYYYYYYY!


That's one way to look at it.

~~~~~

Give me an Uplifted Orca and I'll be happy.


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The Ragi wrote:
Give me an Uplifted Orca and I'll be happy.

Uh, no thank you. I don't think it's a good idea to uplift a creature with a habit of randomly killing people when it is locked inside of an enclosed space and then putting it on a flying metal tube in the darkness of deep space

Wayfinders

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I would like to see an uplifted raccoon and duck. I have Rocket and Howard minis that would be fun to play.


I do think it's kind of weird that we've got one race - uplifted bears - that is explicitly a race that began with legitimately normal bears that were scientifically/magically uplifted to sapience, and a whole mess of races that look like anthropomorphic versions of real world animals just by coincidence of convergent evolution and intelligent design.

But, while I'm not against them including more uplifted animals, I'd want them to wait to do it in a dedicated race book where they can take some time to explore the nuanced different between the uplifted animal race and races that just happen to look like animals. Like, say you had uplifted bovines. What's the dynamic between them and nuars, and them, nuars, and minotaurs, for that matter? Say you had uplifted lions or tigers; what are the differences between them and pahtra?

If you just have an entry for the race in an Alien Archive then I think it's kind of arbitrary whether the animal people race is uplifted normal animal or a naturally evolved race. But I think that's the kind of thing that could be interesting if given the room to explore it more fully.

Having said all that I'd honestly prefer more races that fall more into the rubber forehead category; humans but slightly different features. We've got lashunta, damai, and triaxians, but that's basically it. I understand that people can find that kind of alien boring, and I can agree when that's all there is, but given the wealth of weird and wacky that we've got, I could go for a dose of a bit more normal.


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thecursor wrote:
Uh, no thank you. I don't think it's a good idea to uplift a creature with a habit of randomly killing people when it is locked inside of an enclosed space and then putting it on a flying metal tube in the darkness of deep space

You just described the average starfinder adventurer.


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I for one would love a "Borg/Cyberman" type mechanical menace.


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thecursor wrote:
I for one would love a "Borg/Cyberman" type mechanical menace.

The dreaded meatbags who invade mechanical societies and forcibly integrate the population's robot bodies into their organic ones.


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Here's an idea: more sci-fantasy type races like a "Draenei" or a "Vorlon" type "Magic race". Or even better? A new type of elf or gnome that's "spacey". A "Void Elf" could be terrifying.

Wayfinders

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thecursor wrote:
Here's an idea: more sci-fantasy type races like a "Draenei" or a "Vorlon" type "Magic race". Or even better? A new type of elf or gnome that's "spacey". A "Void Elf" could be terrifying.

Ooh, a Void Dark Elf working for the IRS...brings a whole new meaning to the term wanting "a pound of flesh".


Corsair17 wrote:
thecursor wrote:
Here's an idea: more sci-fantasy type races like a "Draenei" or a "Vorlon" type "Magic race". Or even better? A new type of elf or gnome that's "spacey". A "Void Elf" could be terrifying.
Ooh, a Void Dark Elf working for the IRS...brings a whole new meaning to the term wanting "a pound of flesh".

Wouldn't be great if Wizards would release Spelljammer into the public domain? Void elves crossing the stars in those terrifying spider ships.


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With the release of the COM and alternate racial abilities for the core and legacy races I had an idea. What if every Alien Archive they added in a section for 3-5 playable races and add more player options. Then this could even get better. For a month they could have a simple survey to ask what 3-5 races people want to see. Tally all of this up and go with the most popular choices. Then in the next archive have a page per playable race with new option, feats, spells, class options equipment, etc.

That is on my wishlist.


thecursor wrote:
Here's an idea: more sci-fantasy type races like a "Draenei" or a "Vorlon" type "Magic race". Or even better? A new type of elf or gnome that's "spacey". A "Void Elf" could be terrifying.

Deja vu all over again.

Honestly if Paizo could work out some license deal with ActiBlizz & get a starfinder compatible book with some Warcraft & Diablo magic & monsters, some Overwatch & Starcraft tech, and playable races (and alternate race traits) from all four...

Well, that would be nice, is all I'm saying.


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thecursor wrote:
Wei Ji the Learner wrote:


Variant transhuman races who've adapted/evolved to life in various environments!
I deeply bums me out that the Hykli never got any racial variance.

There is also plenty of ink that could be spilled on the humans living on Aballon.

Several million of them (?), making them the largest human population post-Gap.
Very curious about their story.


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Azelator Ereus wrote:
thecursor wrote:
Wei Ji the Learner wrote:


Variant transhuman races who've adapted/evolved to life in various environments!
I deeply bums me out that the Hykli never got any racial variance.

There is also plenty of ink that could be spilled on the humans living on Aballon.

Several million of them (?), making them the largest human population post-Gap.
Very curious about their story.

Why, exactly, would you think that "several million" humans on Aballon would be a larger population than the entire human population of Akiton? Or, for that matter, the human minority on the extremely-developed Verces?

Sovereign Court

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Metaphysician wrote:
Azelator Ereus wrote:
thecursor wrote:
Wei Ji the Learner wrote:


Variant transhuman races who've adapted/evolved to life in various environments!
I deeply bums me out that the Hykli never got any racial variance.

There is also plenty of ink that could be spilled on the humans living on Aballon.

Several million of them (?), making them the largest human population post-Gap.
Very curious about their story.
Why, exactly, would you think that "several million" humans on Aballon would be a larger population than the entire human population of Akiton? Or, for that matter, the human minority on the extremely-developed Verces?

I think the complaint is more that all attention seems to be focused on Absalom Station humans.


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Looks to me like theres approx 20 million humans in Striving and about 10 in Arl, the respective megaplexes of Aballon and Akiton. That number struck me when I first read it and made me realize that, like with the Hykli*, there is a pretty big untold story here with those folks.

*Although you could, say, read 'Princess of Mars' which is pretty much where the story of Akiton begins.


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Oh, true, the *focus* is definitely a bit skewed. I'm just saying, 20 million humans in Striving is almost certainly less than even the most pessimistic estimate of the human population on Verces, nevermind Akiton.


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Well I'm generally of the opinion that the numbers for population(as well as the numbers for weight/mass, but that's another rant) should always be taken with a grain of salt in Starfinder because working out the how and why of population sizes & densities isn't the primary focus of anyone working at Paizo.

Having said that, I don't think it's unreasonable to extrapolate that when a 20% minority in Striving is greater than the entire population of Arl, which itself only has a 38% human population, and the settlement they decided to give us numbers for on Verces has less than a million people on it, I don't think it's unreasonable speculation to extrapolate that if other cities on Aballon have similar population density and rates that while the human population of Striving alone likely isn't bigger than the human populations of Akiton or Verces, the total human population of Aballon may be.

But, it is just speculation without total planet numbers, and any and all of these numbers are just gonna be whatever the writer thought sounded good at the time, anyway.

It's also all kind of moot. While I'd love for more cultural info on non-Golarion-descended human populations, the devs have explicitly said that they're trying to shy away from actual mechanical differences between humans of different ethnicities, even when those ethnicities are entirely fictitious with no real-world analogue, ala hylki, outside of the vague & nonspecific alternate race traits they've done so far.

Might not be a terrible idea to bring back pathfinder's traits system and use regional & social traits to do the job of having mechanical distinctions for distinct cultures as that has a certain level of separation that alternate race traits lack.


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Back on topic; a Starfinder update for the Wild Hunt, including Wild Hunt star ships.

Paizo Employee Starfinder Developer

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FormerFiend wrote:
Back on topic; a Starfinder update for the Wild Hunt, including Wild Hunt star ships.

This is a great idea.


Jason Tondro wrote:
FormerFiend wrote:
Back on topic; a Starfinder update for the Wild Hunt, including Wild Hunt star ships.
This is a great idea.

Thank you.


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On an adjacent note, The Four Pilots of the Apocalypse?


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RiverMesa wrote:
On an adjacent note, The Four Pilots of the Apocalypse?

Good idea!

Maybe a little reworked, for example:

- Death -> Decay (in the sense of matter dosgregation, for the universe expansion)

- Pestilence -> Radiation

- Famine -> Exhaustion (of energy)

- War -> War?


Nym Moondown wrote:
RiverMesa wrote:
On an adjacent note, The Four Pilots of the Apocalypse?

Good idea!

Maybe a little reworked, for example:

- Death -> Decay (in the sense of matter dosgregation, for the universe expansion)

- Pestilence -> Radiation

- Famine -> Exhaustion (of energy)

- War -> War?

Death could be Entropy, perhaps.

(Could have cool tie-ins with the vanguard class, too.)


Yes, also. They are linked btw.
I feel Entropy just a bit "energetic", being linked with growing chaos while the matter decay, well it's just the cold, lightless end of everything. But that's just me! ;)


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If they do update the Horsemen it would be interesting of one, two, maybe even three of them have been replaced in the Gap with Charon being the only one of the former group still around, even if he's updated his shtick a little.


Over the holidays I re-watched A Bug's Life with my family and I thought that creating a race of stick-bug people would be really cool, perhaps maybe they are a plant race that pretends to be plants instead of being a plant person. I would give them a climb speed and a stealth or disguise bonus. It also got my nieces and nephews excited because they adore those bugs.
Let me know if anyone else finds this interesting.

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Charon had this "grow old and die" thing to him, but androids are a major race. Maybe he's the one up for redefinition?


Nym Moondown wrote:
RiverMesa wrote:
On an adjacent note, The Four Pilots of the Apocalypse?

Good idea!

Maybe a little reworked, for example:

- Death -> Decay (in the sense of matter dosgregation, for the universe expansion)

- Pestilence -> Radiation

- Famine -> Exhaustion (of energy)

- War -> War?

War. War never changes.


Ascalaphus wrote:
Charon had this "grow old and die" thing to him, but androids are a major race. Maybe he's the one up for redefinition?

They’re a major race in the Pact Worlds right now. The Pact Worlds are a speck of dust in the cosmos and the last thousand years aren’t even an eye blink to Charon.

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