I know that attack spells contribute to MAP, but since they essentially just involve waiving your hands around, are they considered agile? For example, if you attack with a sword with your first action, would your second and third actions being used as a spell attack be at -4? It seems like the most sensible conclusion given that unarmed attacks and light weapons are all agile.
That's pretty silly.
Can you give a page number, please?
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An Agile one action spell with the press trait actually sounds like something that would be awesome for hybrid characters.
Could be a cool feat for a magus.
I know that attack spells contribute to MAP, but since they essentially just involve waiving your hands around, are they considered agile? For example, if you attack with a sword with your first action, would your second and third actions being used as a spell attack be at -4? It seems like the most sensible conclusion given that unarmed attacks and light weapons are all agile.
It doesn’t seem sensible to me. Surely punching somebody with your fist should be less complicated than casting and aiming a spell, after all.
Could be a cool feat for a magus.
A Magus archetype that could add this to characters sounds like a great way to help them blend magic and swordplay.
And yeah, I wouldn't consider it sensible for magic spells to be agile by default either. If it doesn't have the agile trait, it doesn't get the benefit.
Personally, I'd endeavor to never use a spell as a second attack because I really want it to land, especially if I'm burning a slot. So this doesn't seem like it will come up very much anyway.
Personally, I'd endeavor to never use a spell as a second attack because I really want it to land, especially if I'm burning a slot. So this doesn't seem like it will come up very much anyway.
Probably not that often. I was thinking of the situation where you take down an enemy adjacent to you with your first action and want to cantrip something at range afterwards.
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Personally, I'd endeavor to never use a spell as a second attack because I really want it to land, especially if I'm burning a slot. So this doesn't seem like it will come up very much anyway.Probably not that often. I was thinking of the situation where you take down an enemy adjacent to you with your first action and want to cantrip something at range afterwards.
I'd use Electric Arc then anyway. No attack roll makes it the gish's best choice.